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Old 02-20-10, 07:26 AM
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Campagnolo 8-speed?

I have a wheel set with Campy hubs of unknown grade, but the rear is an 8-speed and 130 mm OLD. It seems to be the original version of 8-speed. I'd like to get a cassette for it. I see cassettes on Ebay that are both Exadrive and that are not labelled.

What versions of 8-speed cassette will work, or can be adapted?

Can I just get a 9-speed and adapt the selection of cassettes?

Can I get a 9-speed ratchet and put it on a hub this old?
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This very question was asked and answered just a few weeks ago. Here's some info.

http://branfordbike.com/articles/cas...-cogs-pg60.htm

Any Campy 8 speed cassette will work, but most places that still sell them have few to choose from.

At one time, you could easily buy a 9/10/11 speed cassette body to fit this hub, but that was a long time ago. Finding one now will not be so easy.

Try a search. Someone listed some possible options. IMO, it's not worth the trouble and expense to change the hub over to 9/10/11 splines.
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Originally Posted by DaveSSS View Post
This very question was asked and answered just a few weeks ago. Here's some info.

http://branfordbike.com/articles/cas...-cogs-pg60.htm

Any Campy 8 speed cassette will work, but most places that still sell them have few to choose from.

At one time, you could easily buy a 9/10/11 speed cassette body to fit this hub, but that was a long time ago. Finding one now will not be so easy.

Try a search. Someone listed some possible options. IMO, it's not worth the trouble and expense to change the hub over to 9/10/11 splines.
They are readily available, at least in Canada. My co-worker just did this upgrade on a 8 speed shamal wheelset.
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Originally Posted by operator View Post
They are readily available, at least in Canada. My co-worker just did this upgrade on a 8 speed shamal wheelset.
It would be nice if you had a Campy part number and a source, otherwise that's worthless info. I owned two sets of those Shamals back in the day - one with the 16 spoke front and another with the 12 spoke front wheel. Heavy as can be, but they looked cool.

I assume that what is needed is the FH-RE215 as shown on page 27 of this PDF.
http://www.campagnolo.com/repository...spares97-B.pdf
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The only cassette I can find for my 8 speed is Miche or Marchisio.
The Miche is a std size only (12-28 I think). Marchisio is customisable.
They both work OK but neither is quite as positive gear change as the original.
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Originally Posted by MichaelW View Post
The only cassette I can find for my 8 speed is Miche or Marchisio.
The Miche is a std size only (12-28 I think). Marchisio is customisable.
They both work OK but neither is quite as positive gear change as the original.
You can buy oringinal Campagnolo cassettes in Germany, there is where I also get them.
12-23, 13-23 or 13-26
http://www.bike-components.de/produc...-Kassette.html
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Originally Posted by MichaelW View Post
The only cassette I can find for my 8 speed is Miche or Marchisio.
The Miche is a std size only (12-28 I think). Marchisio is customisable.
They both work OK but neither is quite as positive gear change as the original.
Try here.
They show 12-23 and 13-23 in stock
http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=L0160
Or here, show them all in stock
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/roa...te/CAMPCASS200
Or here, but its in the States, only 13-26 in stock, the rest listed as unavailable
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...+Cassette.aspx
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Originally Posted by DaveSSS View Post
It would be nice if you had a Campy part number and a source, otherwise that's worthless info. I owned two sets of those Shamals back in the day - one with the 16 spoke front and another with the 12 spoke front wheel. Heavy as can be, but they looked cool.

I assume that what is needed is the FH-RE215 as shown on page 27 of this PDF.
http://www.campagnolo.com/repository...spares97-B.pdf
EAI, Marinoni and BBB on the west coast stocked this part. Latter two which are authorized campy parts resellers in Canada. Any other worthless info you want me to cough up?
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Originally Posted by Steev View Post
Try here.
They show 12-23 and 13-23 in stock
http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=L0160
Or here, show them all in stock
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/roa...te/CAMPCASS200
Or here, but its in the States, only 13-26 in stock, the rest listed as unavailable
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...+Cassette.aspx
Various Ebay sellers in the US are showing those three cassettes - 12-23, 13-23, and 13-26. For what I'm doing I want the 13-26.

If Jenson says it's unavailable, doesn't that just mean they are out of stock, and not planning to replenish?
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Take a look in this place. U might be able to find more options.

Cheers

http://wheelsmfg.com/
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I have a Miche 8-spd. cassette on a Campy Centaur hub on my custom PUCH road-bike. I also have a Campy 8-spd. cassette in reserve. I have found the Miche shifts perfectly everytime. Smooth as silk - the bike is a 16-spd. by my design. With the Miche you save a few dollars as they are current manufacture. If the Miche wasn't up to my (towering) standards on my beloved PUCH, I'd have the Campy cassette on it in a flash. Have had no reason to whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
Various Ebay sellers in the US are showing those three cassettes - 12-23, 13-23, and 13-26. For what I'm doing I want the 13-26.

If Jenson says it's unavailable, doesn't that just mean they are out of stock, and not planning to replenish?
Campagnolo only makes these three cassettes. If you want a 13-26 you have to get a Miche.
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Originally Posted by paulkal View Post
Campagnolo only makes these three cassettes. If you want a 13-26 you have to get a Miche.
Not *entirely* accurate. Campagnolo 13-26

http://harriscyclery.net/product/cam...ssette-866.htm

or you can use a shimano 12-26 and "convert it" to campy spacing via one of these kits:

http://wheelsmfg.com/content/view/525/40/
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Don't use the Campy hub, especially if you're a big guy - they're absolute rubbish. They don't include the main benefit of modern cassette hubs - a properly supported spindle. The right hub bearing is in totally the wrong spot.

Get a Shimano hub on there, and then you can use Hyperglide cogs which also crap on Exadrive. Shimano 7spd spacing is as near as dammit to Campy 8spd.

BTW, I'm not a Campy hater by any means - but the two things I mention here, Shimano does way better... my dream spec would be full Record except the rear hub.
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Originally Posted by operator View Post
Not *entirely* accurate. Campagnolo 13-26

http://harriscyclery.net/product/cam...ssette-866.htm

or you can use a shimano 12-26 and "convert it" to campy spacing via one of these kits:

http://wheelsmfg.com/content/view/525/40/
Sorry, I typed to fast. I meant, if youu want anything else than 12-23, 13-23, and 13-26 you will have to got Miche.
For the Wheelsmfg kit you will also need a Shimano hub
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Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
Don't use the Campy hub, especially if you're a big guy - they're absolute rubbish. They don't include the main benefit of modern cassette hubs - a properly supported spindle. The right hub bearing is in totally the wrong spot.

Get a Shimano hub on there, and then you can use Hyperglide cogs which also crap on Exadrive. Shimano 7spd spacing is as near as dammit to Campy 8spd.

BTW, I'm not a Campy hater by any means - but the two things I mention here, Shimano does way better... my dream spec would be full Record except the rear hub.
Maybe un theory there the Campagnol hubs could have problems. But in 18 years of using them I did not have any big problems with them. I even used them for loaded touring and I am a big guy.
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I guess they just over-engineered it to make up for the awful design...

Nevertheless, they're not something I'd ever stick on my bike. An extra 100g of metal making up for poor design just doesn't sit right with me...
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