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Old 03-03-10, 10:49 AM
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switching from flat bar to drops, with shimano components

Hello, I have been riding a Schwinn World Street commuter for a few months now, great bike and a good price. But, as im getting better at riding the flat bars are becoming more uncomfortable, I tired the bar extender in different positions but found nothing really fit right.

I wanted to look at going to drops but I can't seems to figure out what to do about brake/shifters.
Im having trouble finding lever parts that can match to a Shimano T301 & Shimano Alivio M410
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Old 03-03-10, 11:06 AM
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In general Shimano works with Shimano, so 8sp, triple shifters should work with your 8sp triple derailleurs. Currently that means 2203 or ST-R500 shifters, as all others have gone on to 9sp.

More problematic may be the disc brakes on your bike.
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Old 03-03-10, 11:18 AM
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You have a few options if you are really insistent on modifying this particular bike (likely a better option is selling it and buying a drop bar bike but that's not what you asked about).

Option 1: Bar end shifters for front and rear deraillers (MTB front deraillers generally won't work with road integrated shifters), V-brake compatible drop bar levers (to work with your current mechanical disc brakes)

Option 2: Road integrated shifters, road front derailler, and swap current mechanical discs for a road-lever compatible disc brake or use Travel Agents to correct pull ratio.

Or some combination of and 1 and 2 (for example, using v-brake lever for front brake and bar end shifter for front derailler, and a road integrated shifter and new disc brake for rear).
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It's not going to be worth it. By the time you change all of that out, you will have spent more than $200. Probably more like $300+. At that rate, you could sell your bike and purchase a $600 road bike and come out about even, not to mention saving yourself from modifying a bike that might feel very strange after installing drop handlebars. Your frame isn't designed to be fitted with drop handlebars. My guess is that you would feel too cramped.
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Originally Posted by DArthurBrown View Post
It's not going to be worth it. By the time you change all of that out, you will have spent more than $200. Probably more like $300+. At that rate, you could sell your bike and purchase a $600 road bike and come out about even, not to mention saving yourself from modifying a bike that might feel very strange after installing drop handlebars. Your frame isn't designed to be fitted with drop handlebars. My guess is that you would feel too cramped.
yeah i realize this, I guess I just needed to read it.
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Cheapest option is to add trekking bars. They are not drop bars of course, but its a $25 option that gives you a lot more hand positions. The second best is bar cons.

The very best option is either N+1 or just sell the bike and get a road bike. A lot of returning riders get flat bar bikes and rapidly outgrow them.
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Old 03-07-10, 11:09 PM
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Might not be so expensive:

drop bars: $10-50 depending on what you want
Tektro v-brake levers: $20
barend shifters: $30-50
brake cables: $10
bar tape: $10

You might also need new shift cables, and maybe new brake or shift housing.

Prices depend on whether you are OK with used parts.

My flat --> drop conversion cost me $20 for v-brake levers, $35 for old SunTour Command shifters, and brake cables and housing, and bar tape. I already had the bars and the brake housing, so it was under $100. Depending on your top tube length and the length of your stem, you may need to change the stem. I had to get a shorter stem. Oh, that was another $35. OK, that comes out to a bit more than $100, I guess.
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Old 03-08-10, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mcgreivey View Post
You might also need new shift cables, and maybe new brake or shift housing.

Prices depend on whether you are OK with used parts.

My flat --> drop conversion cost me $20 for v-brake levers, $35 for old SunTour Command shifters, and brake cables and housing, and bar tape. I already had the bars and the brake housing, so it was under $100. Depending on your top tube length and the length of your stem, you may need to change the stem. I had to get a shorter stem. Oh, that was another $35. OK, that comes out to a bit more than $100, I guess.
I'd say you are going to deffinitely need a new stem. I had to unconvert a bike back to flats because there wasn't a stem made the right size. For a good 6 months, and several stems I just couldn't get the fit right.

and by the way, that is a steal for Command Shifters, have you seen their prices on ebay recently? And especially the annoying little quirk of only indexing well to suntour freewheels. The OP is better off pretending they don't exist, as cool as they are in theory.

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Originally Posted by fuzz2050 View Post
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and by the way, that is a steal for Command Shifters, have you seen their prices on ebay recently? And especially the annoying little quirk of only indexing well to suntour freewheels. The OP is better off pretending they don't exist, as cool as they are in theory.
Yes, admittedly, I did get lucky. The seller spelled "Comand" with one M, and called them MTB shifters, so some may have thought they didn't have road-diameter clamps. They were also well-used, cosmetically, though 100% excellent, mechanically (yeah, SunTour).

There are suntour power ratchet barend shifters on ebay right now for $45 and $50, NOS. If I liked barcons, that's what I'd go for.
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Old 03-12-10, 02:14 AM
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Good list!
I would add barrel adjusters to the list. The tektro brake levers that will work are the 520's, and your prices are a little low.

I did not stop there though. I eventually added a road cassette (20 on eBay), rear road derailleur (Sora 8 spd22 on eBay) , road crank (traded for all the parts that came off), upgraded front derailleur for another 10 bucks. The bike is a dream for me. It ended up being very much like a Surly LHT. I have got over 1500 miles on it and I have never been more comfortable.

Here is a couple pics.....Sorry the bike is so dirty....she gets ridden daily
Originally Posted by mcgreivey View Post
Might not be so expensive:
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drop bars: $10-50 depending on what you want
Tektro v-brake levers: $20
barend shifters: $30-50
brake cables: $10
bar tape: $10

You might also need new shift cables, and maybe new brake or shift housing.

Prices depend on whether you are OK with used parts.

My flat --> drop conversion cost me $20 for v-brake levers, $35 for old SunTour Command shifters, and brake cables and housing, and bar tape. I already had the bars and the brake housing, so it was under $100. Depending on your top tube length and the length of your stem, you may need to change the stem. I had to get a shorter stem. Oh, that was another $35. OK, that comes out to a bit more than $100, I guess.
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Old 03-12-10, 09:13 AM
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I did pay $20 for the Tektro v-brake levers on ebay a couple years ago. That was the going price (more or less) on ebay at the time. I don't see any there now. I do see the Cane Creek equivalent, which are about $40.

Barrel adjusters: yeah, I did get those, as well, from Nashbar. $8 ?

My cassette was already just right: 8-spd 11-30. The Acera RD, though not fancy, works just fine. I changed to a Sora FD ($10) to allow clearance for fenders, not for performance. It was super-rainy last summer here!
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Old 03-13-10, 01:15 AM
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Here is another mountain bike conversion that I just finished. I started with a very cheap Bridgestone CB1 that I got for 100 bucks with rack. It was not running....mostly due to the rot on the tires, the derailleur cables being toast, and the brakes being in bad shape. I see those deals often on craigslist. I bought a set of used Ritchey wheels with tires for 35, used Deda drop bars for 10, Tektro aero levers new for 26, a new H2O quill stem for 20 at LBS, tape for 12 at LBS, new cables 5 and some sweet NOS Suntour barcons for 45 off eBay. I am into this bike for $ 253 plus my labor, which was easy . I feel that this bike equipped wiht a back-up set of folded knobbies could go anywhere. The suntour barcons with the suntour derailleurs are likley to last forever and be really smooth. Just finished it today!.
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Old 03-13-10, 05:40 PM
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^^ Nice. I'd have positioned the bars a little differently, though.

(Kidding!)
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