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Old 03-23-10, 05:27 PM
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Alloy Spindle Bolts

Anyone use alloy spindle bolts? Do they tend have a high failure rate? I like the colored bolt idea, but I have reservations on alloy parts in key places like at the crank-BB interface. What do you think?
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I would never use Alloy (aluminum that is) bolts ona crank/spindle, esp square taper style. you could use a steel bolt to put the arm in place then switch to Alloy but you risk the crank coming loose. even most Ti bolt manufacturers recomended using a steel bolt to tighten the the Ti to hold in place
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They were all the rage a number of years back. They were fine for holding the crank on, but you had to use the original steel bolts first to install, then switch them out. I think one key release systems ended the fad.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
I would never use Alloy (aluminum that is) bolts ona crank/spindle, esp square taper style. you could use a steel bolt to put the arm in place then switch to Alloy but you risk the crank coming loose. even most Ti bolt manufacturers recomended using a steel bolt to tighten the the Ti to hold in place
Well said. I agree that alloy crank bolts are an invitation to failure and I've personally witnessed a crank arm fall off that was fastened by an alloy bolt.

Using steel bolts to torque the crank to spec and then substituting the alloy bolts is the least you have to do. Better, install the steel bolts and leave them there. Cool appearance isn't worth the hassle.
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Besides the new external setups are lighter overall than the old sealed BB and separate cranks. So if this is a weight weinie move then the optimum solution would be to switch the whole works out to one of the seriously light, and hyper expensive, carbon cranksets with integrated BB.
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They were all the rage a number of years back. They were fine for holding the crank on, but you had to use the original steel bolts first to install, then switch them out. I think one key release systems ended the fad.
but where does one find one key release systems these days? preferably colored ones 3 blue 2 red, 1 purple, 2 black? any ideas?
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Used them in the 80's, never a problem.
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Originally Posted by mkane77g
Used them in the 80's, never a problem.
Yeah right. Along with your drillium spokes too I bet.
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I love all the unjustified cynicism in that last reply...

The guy said he had no problems; is that so hard to believe that it could work for one dude?
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Haha I love it! Thanks for the comments guys.
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Still using them
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Originally Posted by mkane77g
Used them in the 80's, never a problem.
Same here. Actually, I'm still using them and they haven't failed yet. 2 sets of Arnold Industry aluminum bolts and one set of Zeus titanium bolts.

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Chalk me up as another user. Gold bolts on my gold&black w/gold ano component single speed.
I also used steel to torque, then replaced w/the alloy.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
but where does one find one key release systems these days? preferably colored ones 3 blue 2 red, 1 purple, 2 black? any ideas?
Shimano's 6500-series Ultegra and 7700-series Dura Ace Octalink cranks came OEM with one-key release crank removers built in.

Suguino made a similar after-market system called the "Autex" but these are now out of production and can only be found NOS or, possibly on e-bay. Here is one source Google turned up: https://shop.vendio.com/benscycle/ite.../?s=1269330962

Note that these aren't available in colors and work ONLY with square taper bolted spindles.
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thanks Hillrider, at present I only have square tapers.
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