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Colin255 03-29-10 02:29 PM

From SSFG: Tools
 
So Im sick of working on my bike w/ the crappy tools I have laying around my house... I need a good starter's tool kit. Question is, which is a good set to start off with?

Thanks!

preston811 03-29-10 03:08 PM

What's your budget? There are a lot of "crappy" sets out there too, and you'll hear a lot of opinions about this, it's been covered a lot, did you search? The Park AK-37 is kinda the bomb, but expensive at ~$220 and overkill for most, esp for fixed gear bikes. What I did when I got back into biking and wanted to jumpstart my tools with some quality was get the basic Park SK1 kit for $65 and added on a Hozan lockring tool, Park chain whip, and a Campy PB wrench. And a Park PCS-10 stand for $125 and I am frickin good to go

A lot of people are content with their $50-100 kits, depends on how much you wrench really and if you're ok with something breaking or possibly even messing up your stuff. The other common advice is if you buy a crappy tool you end up buying twice, but buy quality from the start and you're good for life. i went with the latter

Depending on what you have now, just buy quality tools piecemeal as you need them imo

ichitz 03-29-10 03:21 PM

+1 to buying quality tools as u need it. Esp if your only bike is ss/fg. Most of the times, I only buy tools from park or pedro's. But I buy in pieces as I need it.

wroomwroomoops 03-29-10 03:24 PM

I wonder why this sort of questions is not asked in the Bike Mechanics subforum, where much more experienced people visit.

Anyhow, get this, this, this (the red one), these, this, this (may be a bit on the pricey side, but it's best of breed), and this. Get these, too.

That should cover your basic needs. I selected the best tools that are still affordable (no Rohloff Revolver 2, for example, though it's the best chain tool in the world).

You don't have to thank me (I know you wouldn't anyway - now get off my lawn!) ;)

carleton 03-29-10 03:37 PM

Moving to mechanics in 3...2...1...

preston811 03-29-10 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10594724)
Anyhow, get this, this, this (the red one), these, this, this (may be a bit on the pricey side, but it's best of breed), and this. Get these, too.

Most of the parts you just linked come with the Park SK-1 (except Hozan lockring tool and cone wrenches) and their total not counting shipping approaches that of the SK1, but the SK1 also has 2 screwdrivers, flat kit, chain cleaner device, gear brush, and a case. just sayin :)

wroomwroomoops 03-29-10 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by preston811 (Post 10594788)
Most of the parts you just linked come with the Park SK-1 (except Hozan lockring tool and cone wrenches) and their total not counting shipping approaches that of the SK1, but the SK1 also has 2 screwdrivers, flat kit, chain cleaner device, gear brush, and a case. just sayin :)

It may have those things, but as you said, it doesn't have a lockring tool nor the cone wrenches, which are pretty important if not indispensible. Also, the SW-7 is a much worse spoke wrench than the one I suggested - it makes truing a wheel a pain im der arsh. The tire levers I suggested are also much better than the ones that come in the SK-1, you need to remove only one tire to ascertain yourself of what huge difference there is.

Just sayin'.

preston811 03-29-10 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10594889)
It may have those things, but as you said, it doesn't have a lockring tool nor the cone wrenches, which are pretty important if not indispensible.

yeah that's why you still buy them, like I said I did


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10594889)
Also, the SW-7 is a much worse spoke wrench than the one I suggested - it makes truing a wheel a pain im der arsh.

You don't give any reasons. I wouldn't really know, I don't true my wheels yet


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10594889)
The tire levers I suggested are also much better than the ones that come in the SK-1, you need to remove only one tire to ascertain yourself of what huge difference there is.

Tire levers are only needed for some tire/rim combos IMO. They're only a couple bucks either way

corkscrew 03-29-10 04:09 PM

I'm all for the piece by piece strategy. I've probably spent $100-200 in tools, but its been spread over the past two years. EG just starting out you probably don't need headset or bottom bracket spanners.

wroomwroomoops 03-29-10 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by preston811 (Post 10594920)
yeah that's why you still buy them, like I said I did



You don't give any reasons. I wouldn't really know, I don't true my wheels yet



Tire levers are only needed for some tire/rim combos IMO. They're only a couple bucks either way

Fantastic.

Colin255 04-05-10 01:14 PM

thanks for the help guys.


ya I only ride a FG so I find myself only needing certain tools when a situation arises, so I wasn't sure if just getting a kit from the start is better than buying individually (I've heard its cheaper for the kits at times... but I could be wrong).

CACycling 04-05-10 02:22 PM

Buying a kit is usually cheaper than buying all the tools in that kit individually but you most likely don't need all the tools in the kit and may never need them. I'm in the "buy when you need" camp myself and have put together a pretty good tool kit over the past few years. Most of the items were bought either at Performance Bike Store when they had a really good sale or I'll add a tool now and then to an online order as I'm already paying the S+H.

kmcrawford111 04-06-10 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10594889)
It may have those things, but as you said, it doesn't have a lockring tool nor the cone wrenches, which are pretty important if not indispensible. Also, the SW-7 is a much worse spoke wrench than the one I suggested - it makes truing a wheel a pain im der arsh. The tire levers I suggested are also much better than the ones that come in the SK-1, you need to remove only one tire to ascertain yourself of what huge difference there is.

Just sayin'.

The SK-1 does come with cone wrenches... then again, the one on the Park site doesn't show a chain cleaner, and I think I also saw a version that came with it - maybe this kit has been changed.

I think it's a very nice little kit - just the right balance between being prepared and having too much. I'd get one if I were starting over.


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