what makes a good tire lever?
I have a set of hard plastic levers (similar to PT's) and was just wondering: what makes a good set of levers? On one hand this is such a simple tool that it's hard to make a bad one, after all.
Yet in various places I read recommendations for this lever or that lever. Is that really that much of a difference? |
Relatively cheap, don't scratch your rim or tear your tire bead, and don't break.
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Originally Posted by Torchy McFlux
(Post 10649427)
and don't break.
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The best levers I've ever used are the now-discontinued "Pry Babies" sold by Specialized for about $4 for a set of three. They were thin, ergonomically shaped and would get under the beads of even the tightest tires. The only problem is that they eventually broke, as will most plastic levers. The current Park TL-4 or TL-1 plastic levers work well but not quite as well as the Pry Babies.
I've also used the "Quick Stick" single lever. It works well for stripping a tire that's partially off the rim but it's too thick to do the initial removal on tight tires. Finally, I've used the Var "Tire Jack" with mixed results. It helps install a really tight tire but isn't much good at removing them. |
I've bent a few park tool tire levers when trying to install marathon plus tires.
motorcycle tire levers are really good :innocent: you can actually cut the bead on the tire in more than one location without it affecting the integrity of the tire itself. The only problem you might have is that when you flat, it's more likely to roll off the rim. |
I've found the VAR #425 levers particularly good, especially with tight, high-pressure tires.
http://www.biketoolsetc.com/Product_Images/VR-425.jpg |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 10650242)
I've found the VAR #425 levers particularly good, especially with tight, high-pressure tires.
http://www.biketoolsetc.com/Product_Images/VR-425.jpg |
Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 10650109)
I've bent a few park tool tire levers when trying to install marathon plus tires.
motorcycle tire levers are really good :innocent: you can actually cut the bead on the tire in more than one location without it affecting the integrity of the tire itself. The only problem you might have is that when you flat, it's more likely to roll off the rim. |
Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 10650109)
I've bent a few park tool tire levers when trying to install marathon plus tires.
motorcycle tire levers are really good :innocent:
Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 10650109)
....you can actually cut the bead on the tire in more than one location without it affecting the integrity of the tire itself. The only problem you might have is that when you flat, it's more likely to roll off the rim.
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I do have some worn out P2R tires sitting here and some wheels I've built up. Sure, I'll try it.
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Originally Posted by jeanluc
(Post 10649411)
On one hand this is such a simple tool that it's hard to make a bad one, after all.
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http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_200500
these work well and are tough |
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Originally Posted by roberth33tiger
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http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_200500
these work well and are tough The alloy levers are 6.5 inches long and sufficient to subdue the most recalcitrant tire. The tricky little Koolstop deal doesn't really do anything that the levers can't do (if you have decent hand strength), but it does it easier. Also you need to be aware that devices that work like the Koolstop require the tire to be jammed up above the 2 gripper/brace ends. This means it will not work with wide tires--I'd guess about 28mm is widest. EDIT note: I discovered belatedly that the "alloy" levers above are actually steel. Use with caution or avoid altogether!! |
Most plastic ones are cool when used in pairs. I stay away from aluminum ones. I feel they're not very slick and create too much friction on wheel surfaces.
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Although I carry tire irons on all my bike and have a set in my toolbox.......I have never used them.
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Originally Posted by mike047
(Post 10653323)
Although I carry tire irons on all my bike and have a set in my toolbox.......I have never used them.
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I've used LOTS of different levers over the last 4 decades.
These are what I prefer for carrying on the bike Topeak Shuttle http://www.topeak.com/mediafiles/products/174/ I like the Park TL-5 levers in the shop. |
Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 10650109)
you can actually cut the bead on the tire in more than one location without it affecting the integrity of the tire itself. The only problem you might have is that when you flat, it's more likely to roll off the rim.
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Originally Posted by Wanderer
(Post 10650265)
You have got to be kidding !!!!!! This is NEVER a good idea.....
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Originally Posted by Zap Hassellhoff
(Post 10653179)
Most plastic ones are cool when used in pairs. I stay away from aluminum ones. I feel they're not very slick and create too much friction on wheel surfaces.
A few minutes ago, when I was reading the newer posts, I got top thinking about it again and took a closer look at the alloy levers I recommended. They felt awfully heavy for aluminum alloy, so I ran them by my cyclocomputer magnet--oops, they're magnetic. I've been robbed! Went back to the freefortbikes site and sure enough it says they are alloy (which I took to mean they are aluminum alloy). I looked up the meaning of alloy and it's just a blend of more than one metallic ingredient--steel, in fact, is an alloy in itself (iron and carbon). So these levers are actually steel and I take back my recommendation. Maybe they're ok for initially getting a bead over a rim, but I surely would not slide them around an alloy rim (like I did yesterday--OUCH!):eek: The good news is they did in fact defeat the Marathon Plus without breaking . . . |
Originally Posted by AEO
(Post 10654005)
it works, really easy to mount the tire after cutting the bead in a few spots.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...adcutter01.jpg |
I inflated it to 120psi and only cut it in 4 spots around one side :innocent:
after all, it's only really hard to mount the second bead. |
Origin8 and Soma both make steel cored plastic coated tire levers. I have a set of the Soma ones that have not bent or busted yet. The plastic overmould does prevent rim scratching. Lezyne offers aluminum levers.
IMO the difficulty of mounting Marathon Plus tires is VERY rim dependent. I just mounted a pair of 50-559 Marathon Plus Tour tires on the Salsa Gordo rims on my Surly Big Dummy wihout any need for tire levers at all. Mounting a narrower set of Marathon Plus tires on the Alex rims on my Swobo Dixon on the other hand was a real fight. I ended up using the Kool Stop Tire Jack. |
I have a pair of SOMA levers which I carry on the bike due to their reliability and a set of steel tire levers in my garage.
When I get stuck with putting a really tight bead back onto the rim, I just attack as one would if you were mounting a tubular. It works out. |
Originally Posted by mike047
(Post 10653323)
Although I carry tire irons on all my bike and have a set in my toolbox.......I have never used them.
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