monocoque carbon forks: can the fork column be replaced?
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monocoque carbon forks: can the fork column be replaced?
As explained in a different forum, I'll have to do something with my wife's bike to raise the handlebars (replacing the drop bar with trekking bars may not work because of the Shimano brifters).
As the stem is already at the top of the fork column and the stem is already angled up, the only thing left I can think of is to replace the fork column.
What I don't know without disassembly is whether this is possible for her bike (Specialized Roubaix Triple 2007, the fork is listed as "Specialized FACT monocoque carbon fork"). Is the fork column a single body with the fork blades, or are they separate pieces? I suppose in the latter case I can buy a CF tube and replace the column.
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As the stem is already at the top of the fork column and the stem is already angled up, the only thing left I can think of is to replace the fork column.
What I don't know without disassembly is whether this is possible for her bike (Specialized Roubaix Triple 2007, the fork is listed as "Specialized FACT monocoque carbon fork"). Is the fork column a single body with the fork blades, or are they separate pieces? I suppose in the latter case I can buy a CF tube and replace the column.
Thank you.
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Just get a new stem with even higher rise:
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21iaSciRYrL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
Be sure the bar-clamp diameter is the same as as the existing handlebars.
Did you buy the bike from a shop? I've found a lot of them do customers a disservice by selling them a racing bike. Most people aren't going to be racing and would better be served with something like a Specialized Crosstrail or Cirrus.
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21iaSciRYrL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
Be sure the bar-clamp diameter is the same as as the existing handlebars.
Did you buy the bike from a shop? I've found a lot of them do customers a disservice by selling them a racing bike. Most people aren't going to be racing and would better be served with something like a Specialized Crosstrail or Cirrus.
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How about a stem raiser: https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...ils.php?id=941
With this expander plug (which takes a standard top cap bolt): https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=29439
With this expander plug (which takes a standard top cap bolt): https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=29439
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Sell the bike and start over.
If you want to stick with the bike you will need to buy a new fork to replace the one you have. I suggest a fork with carbon blades and an alloy steertube. Avoid another fork with a carbon steertube because you will most likely limit yourself to the same spacer stack height of your current fork, about 40mm.
I would also avoid any type extender because they place more leverage on the carbon steertube and may cause it to fail.
You could use a mountain bike type of riser bar on the bike that could bring the bars up about 3 inches but it would require new shifters, brake levers grips. It is not impossible but the conversion would cost some $$$.
If you want to stick with the bike you will need to buy a new fork to replace the one you have. I suggest a fork with carbon blades and an alloy steertube. Avoid another fork with a carbon steertube because you will most likely limit yourself to the same spacer stack height of your current fork, about 40mm.
I would also avoid any type extender because they place more leverage on the carbon steertube and may cause it to fail.
You could use a mountain bike type of riser bar on the bike that could bring the bars up about 3 inches but it would require new shifters, brake levers grips. It is not impossible but the conversion would cost some $$$.
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If you want to stick with the bike you will need to buy a new fork to replace the one you have. I suggest a fork with carbon blades and an alloy steertube. Avoid another fork with a carbon steertube because you will most likely limit yourself to the same spacer stack height of your current fork, about 40mm.
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No you can't, at least not much. The general recommendations from fork makers is no more than 25 mm (1") of spacers above the headset and below the stem for a 1" carbon steerer and no more than 40 - 50 mm (1.5 - 2") of spacers for a 1-1/8" carbon steerer. The steerer extender shown is the same as increasing the spacer stack.
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No you can't, at least not much. The general recommendations from fork makers is no more than 25 mm (1") of spacers above the headset and below the stem for a 1" carbon steerer and no more than 40 - 50 mm (1.5 - 2") of spacers for a 1-1/8" carbon steerer. The steerer extender shown is the same as increasing the spacer stack.
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I'll try it (once I find a retailer shipping to Canada). I couldn't find anything similar it at Nashbar or Jenson :-( An adjustable stem is a lot more expensive and am not sure about the reliability, I think these are made for temporary use, while the rider checks different heights.
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I'll try it (once I find a retailer shipping to Canada). I couldn't find anything similar it at Nashbar or Jenson :-( An adjustable stem is a lot more expensive and am not sure about the reliability, I think these are made for temporary use, while the rider checks different heights.
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Doesn't have to be. I can get an adjustable stem for about 12 USD. Although entirely devoid of bling value and somewhat on the heavy side it seems to do its job just as well as one can wish for. But sure, bling AND adjustability will cost you.
Certainly there can be lemons available here too, but I can't remember reading/hearing anything about sudden failures. If there are reliability issues they've gotta be fairly rare.
They certainly CAN be used like that, but they don't have to be. There are plenty of hybrids that are sold with adjustable stems as stock, and keep rolling like that for years.
IMO it's more about vanity and image. An adjustable stem is heavier, and not quite as sleek as a fixed stem. It might even have a little more torsional flex than a fixed stem.
If you're really pushing your bike and yourself, or want to look like you do, then you're supposed to care about these things, whether they're significant or not. So while an adjustable stem is "OK" for dialing in your riding position on a new bike you'll spoil the illusion if you keep riding with it.
In an average, everyday setting it's entirely insignificant.
Certainly there can be lemons available here too, but I can't remember reading/hearing anything about sudden failures. If there are reliability issues they've gotta be fairly rare.
IMO it's more about vanity and image. An adjustable stem is heavier, and not quite as sleek as a fixed stem. It might even have a little more torsional flex than a fixed stem.
If you're really pushing your bike and yourself, or want to look like you do, then you're supposed to care about these things, whether they're significant or not. So while an adjustable stem is "OK" for dialing in your riding position on a new bike you'll spoil the illusion if you keep riding with it.
In an average, everyday setting it's entirely insignificant.
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Indeed, I think I'll be getting another fork. I didn't quite understand the remark about the limit imposed by the spacers stack. I can install more spacers, can I not? I was hoping to get a CF steerer to reduce the road vibrations (how much of them are dampened by the steerer, versus the rest of the components: tires, fork blades, bar taping, I don't know).
As for road-vibrations, the tyres makes the biggest difference. Going from 23c racing-tyres @ 110psi to 26-28mm touring-tyres @ 70-80psi reduces road-shock and vibrations by 50x more than the difference between a carbon fork vs. aluminium/steel one. Again, a racing bike may not be the best model for anyone but racers.
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Here are adjustable stems intended for road bikes and neither is terribly expensive. This one fits the newer "oversize" 31.8 mm handlebars: https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...0_10000_200459
This one fits 25.8/26 mm road bars: https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...5_10000_200459
And this one fits 25.4 MTB and a few road bars: https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_200460 I had this one on a road-converted MTB for a while and it was very strong and held its adjustments with no problems.
This one fits 25.8/26 mm road bars: https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...5_10000_200459
And this one fits 25.4 MTB and a few road bars: https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...1_10000_200460 I had this one on a road-converted MTB for a while and it was very strong and held its adjustments with no problems.
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Don't over think this. There are three easy to find and inexpensive products that when used in combination should solve your problem that have already been mentioned:
1 or 2: High angled stem - or - adjustable angle stem (you're not correct - they're neither expensive nor unreliable. I have them on two of my bikes!)
3: Stem extender
Both should be available through many online sources, and most local bike shops. I think your solution will be less than $50.
A new fork will get you VERY little more height than the fork on your Roubaix and will cost you at least a couple of hundred if not more. Steer tubes, whether they're aluminum or carbon fiber, are usually not recommended to be much more than 80 (MAYBE 100) mm above the top headset bearing. You can measure the total height of your current steer tube (add height of all spacers, including cone spacer, plus height of stem clamp), and compare to that number. I'll bet yours is already 80mm. That bike probably came with that (~80mm); did you cut it down from there?
1 or 2: High angled stem - or - adjustable angle stem (you're not correct - they're neither expensive nor unreliable. I have them on two of my bikes!)
3: Stem extender
Both should be available through many online sources, and most local bike shops. I think your solution will be less than $50.
A new fork will get you VERY little more height than the fork on your Roubaix and will cost you at least a couple of hundred if not more. Steer tubes, whether they're aluminum or carbon fiber, are usually not recommended to be much more than 80 (MAYBE 100) mm above the top headset bearing. You can measure the total height of your current steer tube (add height of all spacers, including cone spacer, plus height of stem clamp), and compare to that number. I'll bet yours is already 80mm. That bike probably came with that (~80mm); did you cut it down from there?
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Don't over think this. There are three easy to find and inexpensive products that when used in combination should solve your problem that have already been mentioned:
1 or 2: High angled stem - or - adjustable angle stem (you're not correct - they're neither expensive nor unreliable. I have them on two of my bikes!)
3: Stem extender
Both should be available through many online sources, and most local bike shops. I think your solution will be less than $50.
1 or 2: High angled stem - or - adjustable angle stem (you're not correct - they're neither expensive nor unreliable. I have them on two of my bikes!)
3: Stem extender
Both should be available through many online sources, and most local bike shops. I think your solution will be less than $50.
A new fork will get you VERY little more height than the fork on your Roubaix and will cost you at least a couple of hundred if not more. Steer tubes, whether they're aluminum or carbon fiber, are usually not recommended to be much more than 80 (MAYBE 100) mm above the top headset bearing. You can measure the total height of your current steer tube (add height of all spacers, including cone spacer, plus height of stem clamp), and compare to that number. I'll bet yours is already 80mm. That bike probably came with that (~80mm); did you cut it down from there?
Thanks.