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Old 06-20-10, 07:27 PM
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Drop Bars to Butterfly Bars conversion on a Surly LHT Complete

I'm at the point where I want to add some butterfly - trekking bars to my Surly LHT, as I'm getting numbness from the limited amount of hand positions. I bought the Complete, well before I knew much about bicycles, and want to make the switch when I start wearing out components.

I'm under the impression that I'm going to have to change the brakes to V-Brakes, and of course the shifting components and actual brake handles. Has anyone done this and can you outline what else I'm going to be in for? I want to start to be able to plan and budget this while I cycle the world.
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Old 06-20-10, 07:38 PM
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Why would you need to switch to v-brakes?

Is your set and handle bar height basically level, or are the handle bars lower? Can you post some pictures of your bike --
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Old 06-20-10, 07:51 PM
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If you are getting numbness in your hands, it's possible that you have other fit issues that could be resolved with a stem change. Usually this is because your bars are lower than your seat and there is too much weight on your hands.

For the butterfly bars you will need to swap out the brake levers to a mountain bike style. Your bar end shifters (you do have them, right?) can be converted to MTB style thumbshifters with "Paul Thumbies". Or you can get new shifters. The actual brakes do not need to be changed. One more thing: with the bar swap you may also need to change the stem anyway because it will change the fit.
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I agree a taller or more 'upright' stem may be in order. I have similar problems and constantly get greif from the C&V crowd for my MTB style stems on mt road bikes.
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Thanks for response. I do have bar end shifters as well and one is starting to go on me. I now understand the braking mechanism a bit better and realize I don't have to shift to V's - just the handles. Either way its a chunk of money for me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiredof...05926/sizes/l/ is about the best I can get for a decent bike shot. I will take more tommorrow and update.
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Thanks for response. I do have bar end shifters as well and one is starting to go on me. I now understand the braking mechanism a bit better and realize I don't have to shift to V's - just the handles. Either way its a chunk of money for me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiredof...05926/sizes/l/ is about the best I can get for a decent bike shot. I will take more tommorrow and update.
The stock LHT handlebars aren't very good for comfort. I'd bet you can solve your comfort problem with different drop bars. In looking at the pic, it appears there is quite a sharp dive down to the brake hoods from the tops of the bars. Instead, there should be a "shelf" transitioning smoothly and ergonomically from the top of the bars to the brake hoods. You really can't achieve that with those stock bars, they're just not shaped right. To make matters worse, the bottom section of your bars are more or less parallel with the ground, which, particularly with those bars, makes for a very un-ergonomic situation when riding on the hoods.

Here's a pic of my LHT equipped with plain old Nitto maes bend drop bars and Cane Creek aero brake hoods. The setup is very comfortable for riding with my hands on the hoods and allows easy braking when riding in the drops as well.

I don't think you need to get the bars to a higher position, just a better thought-out handlebar/brake lever situation.

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Agree with Well Biked. My bars are usually rotated more so the top part is slightly sloping down, but not much -- pretty much like Well Biked's pic. Looks like you already have a high-rise stem, so it will be tough to get it higher.

Also, your seat is way tilted up, it looks like. Of course tilting up will help move some weight off your hands, but that's quite severe. I would suggest if you are working on overall fit you "reset" that so it's in a more normal position. Perhaps you can play with the fore-aft position. Making adjustments to the seat will affect how much weight you put on your hands vs seat.
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Before you spend any money you should try repositioning the seat and bars. You may also reposition the brake levers on the bars. Maybe you could get it to work better. Definitely level the seat. It should feel level without you sliding backwards or forwards. Those bars do seem to have an odd shape, a little squished.

Borrow a trainer and find an experienced cyclist and have him/her take a look at your position while riding stationary. Also try using a mirror so you can see for yourself.
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