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Thumpic 10-20-10 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by duckforcover (Post 11647876)
I don't buy a word of it.

+1 I'm not an expert bike wrench; but it takes some significant toolage and intent to strip a pedal out of a crank arm......and twice at that.....a likely scenario is that the first pedal was crossthreaded at installation (destroying the thread intregrity) and it failed........and who knows about the used one...you get what you pay for with any used parts.

FBinNY 10-20-10 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Thumpic (Post 11653542)
+1 I'm not an expert bike wrench; but it takes some significant toolage and intent to strip a pedal out of a crank arm......and twice at that.....a likely scenario is that the first pedal was cross-threaded at installation (destroying the thread intregrity) and it failed........and who knows about the used one...you get what you pay for with any used parts.

As you say, you're not an expert. Stripped cranks are fairly rare, and the scenario of a person cross threading one crank, then somehow getting a defective crank stretch credulity. Two different cranks stripping on the same side is rare enough that you should be searching for a common denominator. Either the OP is lying and is cross threading his pedals (possible), or the pedal has a damaged thread and is damaging the crank when installed (though a mechanic should have felt the resistance and caught it) or the pedal is unscrewing halfway then stripping under load, which is the most common cause of stripped cranks.

Thumpic 10-20-10 06:28 PM

nothing incredulous at all.....especially if the second crank is used and from an unknown source.........

but you ARE an expert and your assessment is probably correct......

LarDasse74 10-20-10 07:29 PM

I have seen a few stripped cranks in my time... the causes were (1)pedal not properly tightened; (2) cross-threaded or forced left side into right cranks; (3) excessive bearing friction.

(1) is always my first guess. But if the OP rode 100 miles then this is unlikely. Generally, an improperly installed pedal will pull out on the first few miles. It's not impossible, but just not how it has happened in my experience.
(2) is usually obvious, except where the threads are ripped out clean and no 'evidence' remains, but if someone is determined and careful it is possible to get a pedal in to a crank of the wrong thread type and ride it like that for a while. But the rider would notice or feel the pedal being crooked as it is usually pretty bad.
(3) does not happen too often, in my experience. If a pedal is properly tightened from the beginning, the amount of torque required to unscrew would easily be noticed by the rider as the pedal flips over under his foot.

Crazyed..27 10-20-10 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by Bezalel (Post 11648395)
That is the least of your problems. You've had the same failure twice and what happened is pretty rare, you need to figure out what is causing these failures to prevent it from hapening a third time.


I agree the first was my fault..the second one was not....awwwe it is so frustrating because that is my good bike!

Thumpic 10-20-10 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Crazyed..27 (Post 11654805)
I agree the first was my fault..the second one was not....awwwe it is so frustrating because that is my good bike!

I can't imagine that you can't get back on the road for $50 at the most....parts and all.....in my region there are donor bikes on CL and at thrift stores all day; everyday for cheap.......it won't be Campy; but it'll work.......

ultraman6970 10-21-10 06:37 AM

Which crankset are we talking about?, i can understand the op might not have money but a crankset is not that expensive now a days. Rather get a crankset than a pair of brifters.

Batavus 10-22-10 11:27 AM

All I can say is: if you came into our shop with this problem, I 'd have a very hard time swallowing the JRA angle...

slowandsteady 10-22-10 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Batavus (Post 11663222)
All I can say is: if you came into our shop with this problem, I 'd have a very hard time swallowing the JRA angle...

Do you really think the OP removes his pedals just for fun daily? Who takes their pedals off with any regularity? No one.

Thumpic 10-22-10 02:27 PM

ok........I give........JRA?

jdm5 10-22-10 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Thumpic (Post 11664028)
ok........I give........JRA?

I had to research it..."Just Riding Along" I believe.

nhluhr 10-22-10 02:39 PM

:lol: http://www.jrabikeshop.com/

Crazyed..27 10-22-10 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by ultraman6970 (Post 11655733)
Which crankset are we talking about?, i can understand the op might not have money but a crankset is not that expensive now a days. Rather get a crankset than a pair of brifters.

The first crankset was a BD bike...I went to Mentor Ohio and had to palace my bike in a trunk of a car...I took the pedeals off so it would fit....My fault.....The second crankset was a used one from the LBS...I rode around 100 miles on their repair and had the same problem...strange?

Crazyed..27 10-22-10 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by slowandsteady (Post 11663480)
Do you really think the OP removes his pedals just for fun daily? Who takes their pedals off with any regularity? No one.


Thank you! I take the pedals off only when I need to...and that is a rare occasion!

Suburban Grind 10-22-10 09:21 PM

Did the problem pedal spindle threads have alot of grease or anti-seize on it? :notamused:

I think that was the over enthusiastic rookie move I made when I slathered the spindles of my replacement pedals, placing on my current 15 year old beater, with anti-seize, and noticed about 100 miles after the rebuild I had lost probably 75 percent of the torque I put on onto the non-drive side thread. Went down from like 36 N-m to about 10 N-m. The drive side was perhaps 25 percent down then. I attribute it to over-lubing and new pedals whose seals seemed to have fair bit of dynamic drag twisting the spindle loose. Bottom bracket fixing bolts loosened a little too. I re-tightened checked again another 100 miles, pretty much stayed 100 percent tight. Relief - glad I didn't taer threads out my new Sugino XD600 cranks. 900 miles - nicely spinning cadence 90-110 continues. :thumb:

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FastJake 10-22-10 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Suburban Grind (Post 11665668)
Did the problem pedal spindle threads have alot of grease or anti-seize on it?

When I work on my bikes, I make sure to grease just about every nut and bolt. I've dealt with way too many stuck/rusted/sheared off bolts on bikes. The grease actually allows you to tighten them down more. Getting off stuck pedals is especially painful.


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