Recommend me an Anti-Seize product for Ti Frame
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Recommend me an Anti-Seize product for Ti Frame
I am going to have a LBS install a bottom bracket, but they don't sell any Titanium frames so I'm worried that they will just use regular grease to install the bottom bracket in my Ti frame. I am going to call to find out, but if they say they will just use grease, what Anti-Seize product should I buy for them to apply to the bottom bracket threads so the darn thing doesn't seize up. A quick search on BF just has folks recommending anti-seize, but they don't list any specific product. Is there anything from Ace Hardware that I can buy? I'm willing to purchase online, I just don't want my bottom bracket stuck.
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I use some on each spoke, when I build my wheels ,
subsequent truing touch ups go well.
Brand name ?
https://www.sealanddesign.com/categor...nti_Seize.aspx
https://www.permatex.com/products/aut...ubricant_a.htm
subsequent truing touch ups go well.
Brand name ?
https://www.sealanddesign.com/categor...nti_Seize.aspx
https://www.permatex.com/products/aut...ubricant_a.htm
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I use Teflon tape on the BB threads. Inexpensive an I have not had a problem in over 10 years of riding TI frames.
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Any and all of those anti-seizes will work but they aren't really needed. A good layer of decent grease is fine. In fact, that's all Litespeed recommends and they should know something about Ti frames.
I've used Phil Grease and Never-Seez brand antiseize with equal success and, by far used grease more than antiseize. I've had Ti frames for over 15 years and one of them has >70,000 miles on it with no problems at all.
I've used teflon plumbers tape a few times to quiet down some of the early Shimano UN-XX bottom brackets but it wasn't necessary to protect the frame.
I've used Phil Grease and Never-Seez brand antiseize with equal success and, by far used grease more than antiseize. I've had Ti frames for over 15 years and one of them has >70,000 miles on it with no problems at all.
I've used teflon plumbers tape a few times to quiet down some of the early Shimano UN-XX bottom brackets but it wasn't necessary to protect the frame.
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Anti-Seize! Slowly I Turned, Step By Step....
I am going to have a LBS install a bottom bracket, but they don't sell any Titanium frames so I'm worried that they will just use regular grease to install the bottom bracket in my Ti frame. I am going to call to find out, but if they say they will just use grease, what Anti-Seize product should I buy for them to apply to the bottom bracket threads so the darn thing doesn't seize up. A quick search on BF just has folks recommending anti-seize, but they don't list any specific product. Is there anything from Ace Hardware that I can buy? I'm willing to purchase online, I just don't want my bottom bracket stuck.
and more naive here on BF (too dumb to know
where it would inevitably go).
One of the interesting things i learned about
anti-seize compounds in general is that there
are various quality levels, with the better ones
containing more of the sacrificial metals
that are there to chemically prevent corrosion
of your two dissimilar metal parts.
Here is a link to the entire thread:https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...nds?highlight=
But honestly, the best info I got was from this:https://www.sacskyranch.com/antiseize.htm
So you could probably get the good stuff from them
by mail, but it will probably be enough to assemble
a 747.
If you have a small local airport, you might just drop
in and see who's wrenching on airplanes at the time.
Otherwise, most auto parts stores sell something in
small tubes about the size of travel toothpaste that
seems to work reasonably well.
Respectfully,
Mike Larmer
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Long story short (I hope....) Antiseize is never a mistake for assembling threaded bike component assembly but it isn't essential for Ti frames. If you have some or will buy some, fine. If you don't have access to it, grease will also work well and your bike won't weld itself into one seized and corroded mess.
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Agreed, grease will be OK for that. If you want anti-sieze "just because," you can get a small quantity of Permatex anti-sieze at an auto-parts dealership, or a packet of Ti-Prep.
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"anti-seize" is the same as copper anti seize. It lasts much longer than regular grease, and should be used whenever possible when maintenance is infrequent. As such on a commuter bike.
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Looigi's lube doctrine:
Any lube is better than no lube.
Application specific lube is better than just any lube.
Brands (and associated marketing hype) matter very little.
Lube companies will say just about anything to sell their products.
Manufacturers of equipment that requires lubrication will generally specify what they believe will ensure the least trouble, best performance, and longevity of their products.
Lubes have physical properties and chemical properties. The chemical properties can be just as important. The chemical properties of anti seize compound are quite different than those of lubricating grease.
That said, I have no compunctions using regular lubricating grease on most fasteners where greasing is called for. For Ti, or stainless steel on stainless steel, I like official anti-seize.
Any lube is better than no lube.
Application specific lube is better than just any lube.
Brands (and associated marketing hype) matter very little.
Lube companies will say just about anything to sell their products.
Manufacturers of equipment that requires lubrication will generally specify what they believe will ensure the least trouble, best performance, and longevity of their products.
Lubes have physical properties and chemical properties. The chemical properties can be just as important. The chemical properties of anti seize compound are quite different than those of lubricating grease.
That said, I have no compunctions using regular lubricating grease on most fasteners where greasing is called for. For Ti, or stainless steel on stainless steel, I like official anti-seize.
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For those who do any of their own automobile mainrenance, anti-seize is used on spark plug threads, particularly for those installed in aluminum heads which are the majority these days. So if you buy a small tube, there are other uses for it also.
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