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Old 01-14-11, 03:51 PM
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Wheelset

Not sure if this belongs in here, so feel free to move it if need be....

Is this wheel set any good...I'm skeptical because of the price....

https://cgi.ebay.com/NIB-ROAD-BIKE-WH...item2eab4e9b97

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Old 01-14-11, 04:27 PM
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Depends on what you mean by 'good'. They have the brand name of a good product, but they are a knock off of that brand. I think for about $50 more, I'd get something like this:
https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...1545500_400222

At least you know you could return them if you had issues.
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Old 01-14-11, 04:33 PM
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According to ebay the seller is stateside, has a high percent rating and 20k transactions. I would wait a bit until you see feedback for that item to see what other buyers say and also check feedback for return experience.
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Old 01-14-11, 05:02 PM
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the seller BikeIsland is division of Bikes Direct. so they have tons of decent quality stuff made for them at cheap prices.

https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1450
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Old 01-14-11, 05:03 PM
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If you are light enough for 20 spokes go for it. Don't expect anything but cheap Joytech hubs. Even those are serviceable.
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Old 01-14-11, 08:10 PM
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Those are not bad wheels if you're under 175 lbs. I've used them on a couple of lightweight builds on smaller frames. If you;re heavier than that (or just harder on wheels) then moving into the $150 ranges nets you a lot of possibilities, including some nice Mavic rims on Shimano hubs. Keep a' lookin'
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Old 01-14-11, 10:14 PM
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Sorry for the newbie question, but what's the actual disadvantage of the cheaper hubs?

All it says is that they are "Vuelta Q/R alloy BLACK"

And what does 30mm Profile mean?

Thanks!
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Old 01-15-11, 01:24 AM
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30mm means that is the depth of the rim.


The auction = crappy no name hubs on crappy oem rims. Good lucky finding replacement parts for those when they wear out, although you probably don't give a crap at 100USD a wheelset..
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Old 01-15-11, 02:26 AM
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Looks like the hubs use normal cup and cone bearings, at that price I would stay wide away from that. Even if all the individual components are ok than you don't know how much care and attention they put in the actual build of the wheel. Could be a really poorly machine build wheel. For that price I wouldn't expect too much.
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Old 01-15-11, 08:24 AM
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I don't see any weights in the listing.
In general no weights for a new item mean cheap and very heavy.
Now heavy is no big deal for most uses, but much of the time weight is a marker for quality in bike parts(yeah, not for downhill stuff necessarily, but certainly for road stuff).

The price is ok-cheap price for cheap wheels.
BUT, you can do better finding a better quality used set on CL.
Look for better used wheels-same price or a little more on CL

Charlie
PS Nashbar sells these wheels-roughly the same price I think.
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Old 01-15-11, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by phoebeisis View Post
-cheap price for cheap wheels.
+1, that sums it up. We work on bikes quite often that have wheels on them of this caliber, and believe me, there is never a complimentary word said about them. The main thing you have to be careful about is dropping them on your foot between the bike and the truing stand, that would surely mean a trip to the emergency room. They're designed to look somewhat like lighter, better wheels, and folks who put cost above everything else fall for it because all they see is a wheel that looks kind of like a much more expensive wheelset for a fraction of the cost. A deal that's too good to be true, in other words. My advice: raise your standards.
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Old 01-15-11, 09:58 AM
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That would be a little under Canadian wholesale price for that wheelset. Vuelta is a legitimate brand, but they are decidedly pricepoint wheels.
Claimed weight by one supplier is 2031g for the set.
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Again, these are not bad wheels. Not the best, but not bad.
90% of the people who have them will never wear them out, but if you ride 3-4,000 miles a year, then be prepared to spend more money.
Cup and cone = easy to rebuild/regrease/repair unless you wear out a cone (and when's the last time any of you did that?).
They may be somewhat heaver than more expensive wheels, but you always get what you pay for.

I've used them on several builds (see below) and the people who bought those bikes love the setup.
Still, if you're looking for light weight, or if you're a heavy rider or just hard on wheels, try Rocky Mountain Cyclery (nice Mavic/Shimano combinations for $150 or so) or other used items on CL or eBay.

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I'll say again, these wheels are ALL about the price. They're heavy. And they're not very durable. So what is there that's good about them? The price, that's it. That's the only reason they're purchased, if people would just be honest with themselves. If you're looking for any level of quality worth mentioning, you would look for a different wheelset. People who have in their criteria for a wheelset anything other than price would not buy these wheels. And because they look kind of racy with that spoke pattern (not a good thing, btw), folks who don't know any better will buy them thinking they're getting something they're not.
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Having bought a couple of cheap wheelsets that have worked out very well for me I'd suggest that some of the critics here are over reacting. Yes they are cheap wheels and yes they will be a little heavier than the higher priced options and yes they will require some additional tuning as they bed in. But these wheels will mount on the bike and after a bit of tuning they'll settle down and should work decently well. And they won't weigh all THAT much more than the sets that cost 4 times as much. Vuelta may be a lower level brand name but the stuff I've used from them has proven to be very servicable, not overly heavy and decently durable.

My chief concern is that they are low spoke count wheels. That means there is less support for the rim and/or the spokes are under more than normal tension. That and the oddball eyelet spacing due to the "paired" spoke pattern will make future tensioning and truing into a bit of a bother. For this reason alone I'd suggest sticking with higher spoke count wheels that use even spacing around the rim.
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But these wheels will mount on the bike.
I'll grant you that.
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Old 01-15-11, 08:37 PM
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Just my take on it but I think if I had that choice, I think it would depend on what kinds of distances I want to do with the bike. For short distances like 4 or 5 miles inside the city, I would be tempted by cheap wheels. For light touring maybe 30 to 60 miles at a time, I decided to buy a Shimano Tiagra hub and WTB Freedom Ryder 23 rim. (My front wheel might be a Deore LX dynamo hub, haven't bought it yet.)

Some people say Shimano hubs are a good bang for the buck. I looked at technical documents of the Shimano 2200, Sora and Tiagra hubs. The 2200 diagrams look like they're not even protected from the elements. Sure, you can use a grease gun to re-grease them but I think that's the only advantage. When I googled Sora, I found a couple of lukewarm reviews but I couldn't even find a Sora hub or wheels built with them so I decided to forget about those. Sure, some people will say that Shimano 105 hubs are superior to Tiagra but the price difference when the Tiagra are on sale is so extreme, I'd only go for 105 if I was hardcore. The Tiagra already have like a quasi-sealed design so I think they're adequate if you wanted to go maybe a couple thousand miles without having to re-grease them from what I read.
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Hi vincavinz,

Disadvantages of cheap cup-and-cone hubs include that they are less durable and are more difficult to adjust properly. You could run into the issue that the hub has some play in it that you can't tighten out without binding up the bearings entirely, and this process would involve a lot of swearing because working with the cheap hardware is so frustrating. This is particularly the case after you've put some miles and road grime on them.

Now many people are comfortable riding on such wonky wheels and simply chucking and replacing them if/when the problem becomes intolerable. If you're comfortable with that, go to town.

Regarding the specific wheels you're considering, I wouldn't recommend them on the basis of the design. Snap a spoke, and you'll be walking. I strongly prefer wheels laced with a reasonable number (say 32 or 36) of non-paired spokes.
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Thanks for all the answers...I think I'm just going to wait and either build or buy a set with Tiagra or 105...Is there a real difference between the two?
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My experience with Shimano parts is that they start getting pretty darn good around the mid-range. There will be incremental improvements in build quality between Tiagra and 105, maybe a plastic part here and there replaced with a metal one, maybe a slightly lower weight, but you do pay a lot for that stuff. Tiagra is really decent equipment from what I've seen.
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