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Old 05-07-11, 02:07 AM
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OK, I think I figured out that the two images on the left are telling me to watch for the rim wear indicator (visible to the right), but I have no idea what the second red label is about. Ideas?

BTW, leave it to the Swiss to put every important parameter right there in plain view.
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Maybe the second red label is saying that the rim can break if you continue using it after the rim wear indicator has worn away.
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welded seam maybe
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Visible label on rim ok, no visible label on rim (clean rim side wall), danger of rim breaking.
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what kind of wheels are they? did you go to their website to check the symbols out?
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As I understand it the first graphic indicates that the rim is acceptable as long as the wear marks are still visible.
The second graphic indicates that when the wear marks are completely gone this is a situation that demands attention: replace the rim.
The third graphic is seperate and next to the specifications for load and spoke tensioning and indicates that exceeding those design limits will risk breaking the rim.
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Not warning labels.
Hover your cursor over the logos:

https://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Comp...s/XR-rims.aspx
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Old 05-07-11, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
Not warning labels.
Hover your cursor over the logos:

https://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Comp...s/XR-rims.aspx
Thanks Shim - makes more sense when you see it next to the other icon for sleeved joint.

Got these from Excel Sports Boulder, they did a nice job:

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means, be careful...

Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
Not warning labels.
caution.

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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
Thanks Shim - makes more sense when you see it next to the other icon for sleeved joint.

Got these from Excel Sports Boulder, they did a nice job:

Judging from that picture....why is Excel using "machine-built-wheel" oriented lacing...instead of mirrored lacing - i.e., all inside pulling spokes or all outside pulling spokes that is typically the case for custom builds?

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Originally Posted by mrrabbit
Judging from that picture....why is Excel using "machine-built-wheel" oriented lacing...instead of mirrored lacing - i.e., all inside pulling spokes or all outside pulling spokes that is typically the case for custom builds?

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No, it's mirror image, but the pulling spokes are on the outside of the flanges which Jobst recommends against but only because of derailleur rubbing issues... which isn't an issue for me... and I spend a lot of time in my lowest gear.
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... rims wear? Brake pads are rubber wtf? Disc brakes have got to be cheaper than this..
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eh, disc brake rotors seem to need to be replaced more often and are more rotating mass.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
No, it's mirror image, but the pulling spokes are on the outside of the flanges which Jobst recommends against but only because of derailleur rubbing issues... which isn't an issue for me... and I spend a lot of time in my lowest gear.
Note the careful use of the word "OR".

Typically a custom built wheel will be all inside pulling OR OR OR all outside pulling. The lacing shown in the picture is typically that of machine built wheels...

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Originally Posted by mrrabbit
Note the careful use of the word "OR".

Typically a custom built wheel will be all inside pulling OR OR OR all outside pulling. The lacing shown in the picture is typically that of machine built wheels...

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I don't get it - it IS mirror image, they ARE all outside pulling. Here's the rear from the other side:



Front is laced the same way.
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Sorry...my bad...even after looking at it twice thought I was seeing non-mirror...

...kick me to the curb!

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Just curious...is the front the one with a "ratchet" style play adjustment?

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Originally Posted by reptilezs
welded seam maybe
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Definitely, for mine...

/reads thread

Yay!

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Originally Posted by Kimmo
+1

Definitely, for mine...

/reads thread

Yay!
So you read threads backwards?

Newbie!



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Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
caution.

So lets quote a DT Swiss Owners Manual that covers the use of warning symbols.

That symbol you referenced is listed as a cautionary symbol.
"Shows a danger, which can cause damage to the material or to a third person, as well as serious injuries or even death".

Sounds about right to me.
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If you can see red spots, everything is OK
If you cant see red dots, everything is bad.
Beware!
Your rim will split and you will die, horribly.
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