Sugino XD600 vs MTB Triple?
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Sugino XD600 vs MTB Triple?
Pardon the noob question, but what is the difference/benefit between a road touring triple and a mtb triple? I am looking to put together with either a Rawland Drakkar or Salsa Vaya and plan on a triple setup with wide range cassette. Do mtb cranks not work on road bikes? There seems to be a lot more options going the mtb route.
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A MTB crankset will work on a bike that normally uses Road Cranksets. However two issues need to be understood. MTB chainrings are offset away from the downtube more than road cranksets. This can cause a chainline that limits the use of 2 or more gear combinations. The second issue is that a MTB front derailleur will not work with Brifters. This can be overcome by using a IRD Alpina front derailleur or by carefully adjusting a road derailleur to work.
Will this bike have a 10, 9, or 8 speed cassette?
Will this bike have a 10, 9, or 8 speed cassette?
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Assuming the same chainline and chainring sizes, there would be no practical difference.
I see the Sugino XD600 can come with 46/36/26T chainrings. A Shimano MTB/trekking crank will come in 48/36/26T. I'll assume you're going for either of these.
The Sugino can use either a 113mm or 118mm BB spindle for either a 47.5mm (MTB triple spec) or 50mm (oversized MTB triple spec) chainline, respectively. (Maybe the chainline can be reduced with an even shorter BB spindle as long as it doesn't cause interference with the frame??) If you get a newer-style trekking crank with outboard/external BB bearings and integrated BB spindle, then you'll be stuck with whatever chainline it calls for, probably 50mm. Road triples, on the other hand are spec'd for a 45mm chainline.
Either setup above (46/48T outer chainring) is between a MTB (42/44T outer chainring) and road (50/52/53T outer chainring) setup. I believe you could use either a MTB or road front derailleur, depending on the shifters you have.
I see the Sugino XD600 can come with 46/36/26T chainrings. A Shimano MTB/trekking crank will come in 48/36/26T. I'll assume you're going for either of these.
The Sugino can use either a 113mm or 118mm BB spindle for either a 47.5mm (MTB triple spec) or 50mm (oversized MTB triple spec) chainline, respectively. (Maybe the chainline can be reduced with an even shorter BB spindle as long as it doesn't cause interference with the frame??) If you get a newer-style trekking crank with outboard/external BB bearings and integrated BB spindle, then you'll be stuck with whatever chainline it calls for, probably 50mm. Road triples, on the other hand are spec'd for a 45mm chainline.
Either setup above (46/48T outer chainring) is between a MTB (42/44T outer chainring) and road (50/52/53T outer chainring) setup. I believe you could use either a MTB or road front derailleur, depending on the shifters you have.
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Assuming the same chainline and chainring sizes, there would be no practical difference.
I see the Sugino XD600 can come with 46/36/26T chainrings. A Shimano MTB/trekking crank will come in 48/36/26T. I'll assume you're going for either of these.
The Sugino can use either a 113mm or 118mm BB spindle for either a 47.5mm (MTB triple spec) or 50mm (oversized MTB triple spec) chainline, respectively. (Maybe the chainline can be reduced with an even shorter BB spindle as long as it doesn't cause interference with the frame??) If you get a newer-style trekking crank with outboard/external BB bearings and integrated BB spindle, then you'll be stuck with whatever chainline it calls for, probably 50mm. Road triples, on the other hand are spec'd for a 45mm chainline.
Either setup above (46/48T outer chainring) is between a MTB (42/44T outer chainring) and road (50/52/53T outer chainring) setup. I believe you could use either a MTB or road front derailleur, depending on the shifters you have.
I see the Sugino XD600 can come with 46/36/26T chainrings. A Shimano MTB/trekking crank will come in 48/36/26T. I'll assume you're going for either of these.
The Sugino can use either a 113mm or 118mm BB spindle for either a 47.5mm (MTB triple spec) or 50mm (oversized MTB triple spec) chainline, respectively. (Maybe the chainline can be reduced with an even shorter BB spindle as long as it doesn't cause interference with the frame??) If you get a newer-style trekking crank with outboard/external BB bearings and integrated BB spindle, then you'll be stuck with whatever chainline it calls for, probably 50mm. Road triples, on the other hand are spec'd for a 45mm chainline.
Either setup above (46/48T outer chainring) is between a MTB (42/44T outer chainring) and road (50/52/53T outer chainring) setup. I believe you could use either a MTB or road front derailleur, depending on the shifters you have.
With that said, I've got more time than brains on my hands. I was looking to put a current Shimano CT double crank on an older 126 or 130mm spaced MTB. Typically vintage bikes use a 122mm square taper crank do you think the current outboard bearing BB's will fit?
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Pardon the noob question, but what is the difference/benefit between a road touring triple and a mtb triple? I am looking to put together with either a Rawland Drakkar or Salsa Vaya and plan on a triple setup with wide range cassette. Do mtb cranks not work on road bikes? There seems to be a lot more options going the mtb route.
If you are going to go with an MTB, go for an external bottom bracket version especially a Shimano. Dead simple to install.
An added benefit of the MTB cranks is a higher Q factor. I find road cranks to be too narrow.
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Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
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