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Old 08-28-11, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by catmandew52
This option has been discussed many times in BF.
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Old 08-28-11, 06:22 AM
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Never had a problem with my front derailleur. It's Deore LX too, so there's even better ones available.
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Old 08-30-11, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nerull
And good luck selling road riders a system you'll break by shifting under load. IGHs don't like that.
Well after some testing I've found that, going up hill, if I try to shift from the 30T chainring to the 42T so I can stand and pedal... I can almost click the derailleur into third (52T gear up there...) and it STILL refuses to move that damn chain onto the center chainring!

So much for shifting under load. There is no way. It doesn't work, I tried for like 2 minutes before getting to the top of the hill.
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Originally Posted by bluefoxicy
Well after some testing I've found that, going up hill, if I try to shift from the 30T chainring to the 42T so I can stand and pedal... I can almost click the derailleur into third (52T gear up there...) and it STILL refuses to move that damn chain onto the center chainring!

So much for shifting under load. There is no way. It doesn't work, I tried for like 2 minutes before getting to the top of the hill.
This experiment is also a great way to break your chain!

FWIW, some brands of chainrings have more aggressive/effective ramps and pins and shift better under load than others.
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I don't think it's time to retire the front derailleur. I like both compacts (on my road) and triples (for mountain, utility, and hilly areas) too much.

I do think electronic derailleurs should have been retired before they hit the market...
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I'll echo the first reponse of "learn to adjust a FD". I've never had any issues with a friction FD. Personally, I think indexing a FD is a waste of time and completely pointless. Maybe you've just experienced indexing on your FD instead of friction.

IGHs are great, but your weird, custom cassette + IGH set-up is not going to sweep the market any time soon. Nor is my using a double FD with a compact triple + friction downtube shifters.
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I have one bike with a double crankset, and have never had any trouble with the FD. There aren't any pins/ramps on the rings but you just have to ease up a bit when shifting, which I'm used to doing with my 3-speed anyway. A simple friction shifter is all that's needed as the high/low stops provide all the indexing that's required. I think it's just a bit much to ask a simple metal cage to shift the upper run of the chain when you're applying full force to it.
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