Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

is it possible to mix miche and campy cogs in one cassette?

Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

is it possible to mix miche and campy cogs in one cassette?

Old 08-31-11, 03:15 PM
  #1  
Greenfieldja
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 1,032
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
is it possible to mix miche and campy cogs in one cassette?

A couple of the cogs in the middle of my campy cassette are getting worn but the rest of the cogs are in great shape. I found a source for individual Miche cogs at a decent price...

...has anyone mixed these cogs in with campy cogs? do they use the same size spacers?

-j
Greenfieldja is offline  
Old 08-31-11, 04:18 PM
  #2  
ultraman6970
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I have both but i have never done that mix basically because campy cogs come in pairs, But i dont see why it should not work, the specs in the spacers and cogs is the same than in any campy cog, so i dont see why you couldn't just take the pair that is getting old and replace it with the miche ones. It will work 100% right? no idea, it should but u never know.
ultraman6970 is offline  
Old 09-01-11, 07:34 AM
  #3  
cyclist2000
Senior Member
 
cyclist2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Up
Posts: 4,690

Bikes: Masi, Giant TCR, Eisentraut (retired), Jamis Aurora Elite, Zullo, Cannondale, 84 & 93 Stumpjumpers, Waterford, Tern D8, Bianchi, Gunner Roadie, Serotta, Serotta Duette, was gifted a Diamond Back

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 305 Post(s)
Liked 2,029 Times in 600 Posts
I was thinking that if the cog rotation on the freehub is slightly off from the campy one, it might affect shifting. But I don't have any Mich cassettes to try.
cyclist2000 is offline  
Old 10-01-12, 05:48 PM
  #4  
pjcampbell
fair weather cyclist
 
pjcampbell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Green Mountains
Posts: 1,368

Bikes: Colnago c50

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts
Sorry for the x-post but this is what I want to know. Can I put a Miche 27t or 28t on a Veloce 13-26t and will the teeth line up? Thanks.
pjcampbell is offline  
Old 10-02-12, 10:14 AM
  #5  
ultraman6970
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I have both but i have not tried it.

Depending on the campy cassete the cogs will be in pairs, The record ones have 3 sets of clusters (if im not wrong), the centaur ones have individual cogs and spacers.

IMO as long as the spacer match it should work, even if its off i doubt will be off too much to even notice it.

To the OP, it depends of your campy cassete, but if you are replacing a pair of cogs that come in cluster (a pair together) you might need to buy a couple of spacers when you get the cogs aswell.
ultraman6970 is offline  
Old 10-02-12, 02:57 PM
  #6  
onespeedbiker
Retro Grouch
 
onespeedbiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Santa Cruz
Posts: 2,210

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
First it depends on the number of cogs (speeds). For a ten speed cassette, Campy cogs are spaced center to center about 4.12mm (however the space between 6 and 7 is .14mm wider). To get this (4.12mm) Campy uses 1.7mm wide cogs with 2.42mm spacers. Miche OTOH uses cogs that are 1.86mm and 2.26mm spacers to achieve the same center to center spacing. So if you want to start mixing Campy and Miche, you will need to account for these differences.
onespeedbiker is offline  
Old 10-02-12, 03:23 PM
  #7  
Greenfieldja
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 1,032
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
To Onespeedbiker: Thanks for this great tidbit of info.

To PjCambell: Thanks for x-posting as this resurrected and bumped my year old+ thread back to the front page.

And another thanks to everyone who contributed to this short discussion.

-j
Greenfieldja is offline  
Old 10-02-12, 04:45 PM
  #8  
Drew Eckhardt 
Senior Member
 
Drew Eckhardt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mountain View, CA USA and Golden, CO USA
Posts: 6,341

Bikes: 97 Litespeed, 50-39-30x13-26 10 cogs, Campagnolo Ultrashift, retroreflective rims on SON28/PowerTap hubs

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 550 Post(s)
Liked 323 Times in 225 Posts
Originally Posted by ultraman6970
I have both but i have not tried it.

Depending on the campy cassete the cogs will be in pairs, The record ones have 3 sets of clusters (if im not wrong),
Except with 21 or 23 ending cogs in which case there are two pairs at the end instead of three.

Chorus was the same way where the difference is the 4 large cogs being made of titanium on Record cassettes. There were a few flavors of all-titanium Record cassettes too.

the centaur ones have individual cogs and spacers.
Centaur/Daytona have one pair at the end, except for the 14-23 which was all-loose-cogs, and for 2009-2010 where all options were loose.

Veloce are all loose and galvanized for 2009 and beyond instead of nickel-chrome plated.

Where the last cog is loose it's a special final position cog with a dimpled center so it's closer to the spokes than the end of the splines would allow a flat cog to be.

Spacers for various cog pairs also vary and consulting the spares manuals would be a fine idea to keep things running silently.

IMO as long as the spacer match it should work, even if its off i doubt will be off too much to even notice it.
Shifting to the 14 cog was noticeably degraded when I tried following an 8 speed 13A with a 14B compared to "correct" permutations of 13B-14B and 13A-14A.

Last edited by Drew Eckhardt; 10-02-12 at 04:59 PM.
Drew Eckhardt is offline  
Old 10-02-12, 08:29 PM
  #9  
ultraman6970
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
The centaur i have is all lose cogs.
ultraman6970 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
berner
Bicycle Mechanics
4
11-05-15 01:04 PM
Ronno6
Bicycle Mechanics
9
08-15-15 06:31 AM
velorider562
Bicycle Mechanics
11
08-30-14 12:08 AM
Todd Richards
Bicycle Mechanics
1
06-30-10 10:57 AM
unworthy1
Classic & Vintage
8
04-02-10 10:49 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.