Mystery or mental block?
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Mystery or mental block?
My FD worked fine with my old friction shifter on the DT.
But now, trying to connect the Ultegra handle I notice that I can't pull the cage against the spring, since the cable comes up from below.
I realize the derailer is a "top pull", but how on earth did it do that without a problem before?
The cable ran in the same guides as it does now!
I can't see any way to have it pull from above.
But now, trying to connect the Ultegra handle I notice that I can't pull the cage against the spring, since the cable comes up from below.
I realize the derailer is a "top pull", but how on earth did it do that without a problem before?
The cable ran in the same guides as it does now!
I can't see any way to have it pull from above.
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That front derailleur is a top-swing, DUAL-pull FD, which means it can handle a cable coming from above or below. In one of the orientations, the cable needs to wrap around the guide first (the black part with the cable groove). I suspect the guide is necessary when the cable comes from the bottom.
I suspect you'll nave problems using the Ultegra (road) shifter with that Tourney (MTB/flat-bar) FD, which do not operate ont he same cable-pull ratio. While it's not an issue with friction, this is an issue for indexed shifting.
Also, are you double-clicking the "Submit" button when you make threads?
I suspect you'll nave problems using the Ultegra (road) shifter with that Tourney (MTB/flat-bar) FD, which do not operate ont he same cable-pull ratio. While it's not an issue with friction, this is an issue for indexed shifting.
Also, are you double-clicking the "Submit" button when you make threads?
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I think the old man needs to just get a book, respectfully. And what is the world is a "Ultegra handle"?? An ultegra brifter?? If the answer to the last one is yes, then it makes sense that U could need a longer cable to start with. Those FD are compatible with ultegra brifters? ??
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That front derailleur is a top-swing, DUAL-pull FD, which means it can handle a cable coming from above or below. In one of the orientations, the cable needs to wrap around the guide first (the black part with the cable groove). I suspect the guide is necessary when the cable comes from the bottom.
I suspect you'll nave problems using the Ultegra (road) shifter with that Tourney (MTB/flat-bar) FD, which do not operate ont he same cable-pull ratio. While it's not an issue with friction, this is an issue for indexed shifting.
Also, are you double-clicking the "Submit" button when you make threads?
I suspect you'll nave problems using the Ultegra (road) shifter with that Tourney (MTB/flat-bar) FD, which do not operate ont he same cable-pull ratio. While it's not an issue with friction, this is an issue for indexed shifting.
Also, are you double-clicking the "Submit" button when you make threads?
Anyway, don't let anyone tell you that I am not creative!
Sore, and bathed in sweat maybe, but not beaten.
And helpless without the precise advice from you! Many thanks, my friend.
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I think the old man needs to just get a book, respectfully. And what is the world is a "Ultegra handle"?? An ultegra brifter?? If the answer to the last one is yes, then it makes sense that U could need a longer cable to start with. Those FD are compatible with ultegra brifters? ??
Luckily I still had the old cables from the DT shifters, and the rear one was plenty long to serve as left Suntour DT friction shifter cable now.
All I really wanted to do was get something running for now, and test the right brifter through my nine gears.
This will do for the time being.
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"both were swiftly clipped to what I thought was the right length and nippled off" <--- u have to put the cables 1st, adjust and then clip them once everything is ok. If the cables where in a down tube shifters system and then you are trying to use brifters you will need more cable. Pretty much thats what I understand of what u are claiming. I would ride w/o the fd, it wont make any difference unless u are a smasher 53x11 guy.
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"both were swiftly clipped to what I thought was the right length and nippled off" <--- u have to put the cables 1st, adjust and then clip them once everything is ok. If the cables where in a down tube shifters system and then you are trying to use brifters you will need more cable. Pretty much thats what I understand of what u are claiming. I would ride w/o the fd, it wont make any difference unless u are a smasher 53x11 guy.
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