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Old 09-15-11, 06:58 PM
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Tire mileage

I bought front and rear tires Bontrager H2 Hard-Case – Triple Flat Protection. I had bad luck with them requiring me to replace them after only 1,527 miles due to sidewall cracking, luckly I had the receipt and my LBS replaced them under warranty. However, I just had to replace my rear tire due to a hole wearing completely through, exposing my tube.

What's weird is that various spots I see the tread splitting and separating from the protective strip (I guess this is what gives me the "Triple Flat Protection") This is only with 3,428 miles on that tire. I see the same thing on the front tire, but to a much less degree, so I'll put a few more miles on it.

Question: Anyone know roughly how many miles you get out of your tire (I just started keeping track).
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Old 09-15-11, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by john gault View Post
Question: Anyone know roughly how many miles you get out of your tire (I just started keeping track).
It varies depending quite a bit on the tire and conditions. I ride on glass-strewn streets and often I replace them when I get nervous with all the deep gashes that have developed.

If you want a number, I'd say on average between 4,723 and 7,221 (in my conditions, with decent quality semi-slick tires).
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Old 09-15-11, 09:34 PM
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My experience with narrower tires in the 25mm range is 100 to 4000mi on the
front and 100 to 3500 or so on the rear. The 100 covers tires that hit rocks
or road debris wrong and get cut up to much to fix, such as the square head
bolt I hit once that punched a nice rectangular flap out of the tread. IME you
will lose 10-30% of your tires prematurely to such damage or cuts. A skid on
a locked up wheel will take 500-2000mi off the tread if you happen to do that
in the tire contact patch. Larger tires such as yours likely will have thicker
tread and last longer. Rider weight has a bearing also. 130# rider will get much
better results than 250# rider.
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Everyone gets different life out of tires depending on where they ride, how they ride, their weight, tire inflation pressure, etc.

Years ago one of the auto tire makers analyzed tire mileage data and found that their tires wore much faster in the southeast than anywhere else in the USA. They also found that braking distances were much shorter down south also. Turns out that the paving material used in the southeast is more abrasive, than what's used elsewhere. Also higher traffic loads tend to "polish" roads more in certain areas.

One thing to think about though, is that the kind of cracking you're seeing is an indicator of under inflation. If you're pumping these close to the rated limit, it's possible that you're heavy for tires of that width and would be better off riding something a bit wider.
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Old 09-16-11, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sch View Post
Rider weight has a bearing also. 130# rider will get much
better results than 250# rider.
Good point. Maybe I get more since I weight a scant #145 dripping wet.
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Old 09-16-11, 06:51 AM
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Good info all and very interesting. Just to answer some questions brought up so far: I weigh 230lbs; I ride on 700 x 38c and I usually carry about 30lbs extra weight, being a commuter as primary transportation (with a bent toward cycle touring) I always have a few extra stuff in my "trunk". Some people live out of their cars; I live out of my bike

I wish I would have tracked my mileage more often, but I'm pretty sure I got less than average miles out of these tires. However, I do have a lot of road debris here and got some very LARGE gouges to show for it, so we'll see how this next tire does.

EDIT: BTW, I never let my tire get below minimum inflation (60-80psi), since I can feel it in the performance and I never pump above 80...well maybe 5psi above, but who doesn't
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I weigh 175, and use Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires - 700C25 or 28. On my commute and utility bikes, when the rear is worn out, I move the front tire to the rear, and put a new tire on the front. 90% of the time, on either of those bikes, I am riding with at least one full pannier hanging on the back rack. I currently have a rear tire on my utility bike which has a bit over 8000 miles on it since it moved to the rear. My commute bike is new, and only has 5000 miles on it - I can see some wear on the rear, but the front is still like new. I ride on normal urban streets, with their share of debris, pot holes etc, and I have yet to have a flat. My 'fun' bike, that I ride on weekends, has Hutchinson Fusion 3 tires on it, and I have had many flats on that one - helps keep me in practice for patching tubes
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The tire that failed at 1500 miles from sidewall cracks sounds like it was age hardened before you got it so it might have been in the dealer inventory for a long time. Your 3500 miles on it's successor seems about right. At your weight and with the additional weight you carry on the bike, I really think that's very good mileage.

I'm about 150 pounds and ride 700x23 tires on an unladen bike and, depending on tire make and model, I get between 2500 and 4000 miles on a rear tire if nothing catastrophic happens to it. Front tires, for all practical purposes, do not wear out as you can demonstrate by weighing a brand new one and the same tire after 4000 miles. I'll run a front tire for two rear tires and then discard it as the rubber will have aged from exposure and flexing even though it hasn't worn down.
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Figured I'd post some pics. The pics show the various gouges my tire (especially rear, but front also) sustain from riding around here. It also shows the peeling away of the tread from the protective layer and a repair attempt that I did a while ago that probably gave me a few more miles. http://s1128.photobucket.com/albums/...ire%20Failure/
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I am 180 lbs and ride a Raleigh 3 speed on clean paved roads.
Using strictly Kenda road tires (all the same) I used 3 tires in the rear and one on the front. I got about 7,300 miles on the front before I had to change it out because it developed a sidewall bulge. It still had some tread left. The rears got about 2,500 each and were worn to the casing before being changed out.
I'm not much of a believer in tire rotation on a bike. Labor intensity vs return is just not worth it to me.
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Old 09-16-11, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bobn View Post
I'm not much of a believer in tire rotation on a bike. Labor intensity vs return is just not worth it to me.
I agree. I use to, but decided it wasn't worth it, just buy a rear tire more often.
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Old 09-17-11, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by john gault View Post
Good info all and very interesting. Just to answer some questions brought up so far: I weigh 230lbs; I ride on 700 x 38c and I usually carry about 30lbs extra weight, being a commuter as primary transportation (with a bent toward cycle touring) I always have a few extra stuff in my "trunk". Some people live out of their cars; I live out of my bike

I wish I would have tracked my mileage more often, but I'm pretty sure I got less than average miles out of these tires. However, I do have a lot of road debris here and got some very LARGE gouges to show for it, so we'll see how this next tire does.

EDIT: BTW, I never let my tire get below minimum inflation (60-80psi), since I can feel it in the performance and I never pump above 80...well maybe 5psi above, but who doesn't
I'd recommend that you keep the pressure at 80# (or 85) if that is the maximum recommended pressure shown on the tires. With the weight that you have on the bike a 20# drop in pressure would be huge and I would expect the lower pressure to cause big problems.
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I run michelin pro 3 23c race tyres and the last set i replaced at 2100miles the set before 2000miles if I were you id be really happy at over 3k from your tyres (poet you have got 7k out of yours kudos !) maybe iam doing something wrong lol
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