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Old 10-25-11, 04:50 PM
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What shoulda use to lube brake and shifter cable housing

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I wonder what kind of lube it's recommendable to lubricate the cables from brakes and shifter, I know teflon based lube are good, however Im in Mexico and it's difficult to find those.

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Old 10-25-11, 07:45 PM
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I use regular grease for autos to grease the cables when I install them.
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Old 10-25-11, 07:47 PM
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I use LPS1 to lube my shifter cables.
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Old 10-25-11, 08:14 PM
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I use Tri-Flow Superior Lubricant.
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My Phil Wood BB grease was handy last time. I assume this is just fine for this application.
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Old 10-26-11, 12:44 AM
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You are supposed to use, on Shimano's recommendation, silicone grease, the kind that is used to seal pump parts for swimming pools, which you should have plenty of in Mexico... and hence should be able to source tubes of silicone grease.

The problem that I see in using ordinary grease is that it will lose the lubricant out of the carrier, and the carrier then will solidify and shifting will become sluggish as a result.
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Old 10-26-11, 05:05 AM
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I usually mix silicone grease with wet lube (70:30 ish ratio) and then add just silicone grease to each end of the housing. It's an odd method, but it seems to work pretty well.
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Old 10-26-11, 06:22 AM
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If you have plastic/teflon lined cables, I don't use any lube. If you choose, use a very light non petroleum lube. Lube attracts dirt; with petroleum lube, the volatile ingredients that keep the lube thin evaporate leaving a thicker gunk left.
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I've been using silicone automotive doorlock grease but I'm running out and the type I've been using is no longer available.
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What about powdered graphite? The stuff is wicked slippery (and wicked dirty). Anyone tried that on cables? I have a tube of the stuff and a bike with sticky derailleur cables- maybe I'll try it.
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Hum, seems like sillicone lube could work, I can get those here in Mex, the reason I need lubricate is because my front derailleur (shimano alivio) is hard to shift up, I am thinking it my be the housing that needs the lube
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Originally Posted by skieslord View Post
Hum, seems like sillicone lube could work, I can get those here in Mex, the reason I need lubricate is because my front derailleur (shimano alivio) is hard to shift up, I am thinking it my be the housing that needs the lube
Try shooting the shifters full of WD40.
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These guys have a port in them exactly the size of an aerosol straw (like TF2, GT85 or WD40). http://www.middleburn.co.uk/access_cableoilers.php

I use them on the troublesome final loop of cable just before the rear mech.

Stand by for a million irate posts about how WD40 is a water displacement agent, not a lubricant.
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Old 10-27-11, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by skieslord View Post
Hum, seems like sillicone lube could work, I can get those here in Mex, the reason I need lubricate is because my front derailleur (shimano alivio) is hard to shift up, I am thinking it my be the housing that needs the lube
Don't bother lubing if your not going to also put in a new cable. Most likely the cable and housing are rusted, pull the cable and check. If it's really bad, replace the housing as well. Use stainless steel cables, and a light coating of lube.
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Old 10-27-11, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by leob1 View Post
Don't bother lubing if your not going to also put in a new cable. Most likely the cable and housing are rusted, pull the cable and check. If it's really bad, replace the housing as well. Use stainless steel cables, and a light coating of lube.
I did replace the cable, and also I have put new derailleur (both back and front) but only the front one is hard to shift when shifting up.
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Old 10-27-11, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jolly_ross View Post
These guys have a port in them exactly the size of an aerosol straw (like TF2, GT85 or WD40). http://www.middleburn.co.uk/access_cableoilers.php

I use them on the troublesome final loop of cable just before the rear mech.

Stand by for a million irate posts about how WD40 is a water displacement agent, not a lubricant.
I do not undestand how to use those things.. lol.. What exactly can do with those?
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Old 10-27-11, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by skieslord View Post
however Im in Mexico and it's difficult to find those.
I thought you were able to get anything you wanted to.
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Old 10-27-11, 04:54 PM
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I thought you were able to get anything you wanted to.
sure you are.... but we think that tleflon is only found on pans. so we don't care... lol
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Originally Posted by skieslord View Post
I did replace the cable, and also I have put new derailleur (both back and front) but only the front one is hard to shift when shifting up.
Have you double checked the routing of the cable through the bottom bracket guide? And have you checked the stop screw on the FD deailleur to ensure you aren't trying to shift against that? While the FD is naturally has a bit more spring tension on it, the symptom you are describing doesn't seem to indicate cable lubrication as the issue.
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Wow, I haven't used lube on brake/shifter cables for a couple years now. Always seemed that the lube magically collected gummed up dirt when I eventually replaced them. With the new cables and housing ( sealed, Gore... ) lube isn't necessary IMHO.
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Old 10-30-11, 09:07 AM
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If you don't ride in the rain/mud much I wouldn't lubricate at all.
If your bike is constantly wet or covered in mud I would use a very light
teflon lubricant, that won't attract much dirt.

I might have lubricated my shifter cables on my 22 year old bike once, and they
are still original and working fine. I ride this one in the winter with salt/sandy conditions as well.
I have never lubricated any of my other bikes going back 15+ years, but don't ride them
in such harsh conditions.
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Old 10-31-11, 06:17 AM
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Middleburn Cable Oilers are a female-female cable fitting. They go in the middle of your cables - as in this pic. To lube the cable you roll the O-ring to one side and squirt aerosol lube into the cable through the hole under the o-ring. http://www.rjcx-treme.co.uk/acatalog/cable_oilers.jpg hth
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I have found silicone multipurpose lubes in spray cans at several automotive or home improvement stores. I'll check the brand of the one I'm using the next time I'm out in the shop, but any of them should work fine. I just spray some on a rag and wipe the cable before inserting it in the housing. I do this in the spring and fall, or anytime a cable is off the bike. During the riding season, I just wipe down the exposed cable for the derailleurs about once a week. I release the quick releases on the brakes which gives me enough slack to take the cable housing out of the guides. I just wipe down the cable and slide the housing along it a couple of times before replacing it in the guides and closing the quick release. I use SS cables and have never had a problem.
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Old 10-31-11, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rowan View Post
Have you double checked the routing of the cable through the bottom bracket guide? And have you checked the stop screw on the FD deailleur to ensure you aren't trying to shift against that? While the FD is naturally has a bit more spring tension on it, the symptom you are describing doesn't seem to indicate cable lubrication as the issue.
I opened the EzFire Shimano Acera microshifter and I release the cable from the derrailleur, I found that when I press the lever it clicks normally, however when I press the trigger to shift down it only returns one gear and the second one is kinda of stuck, it needs some tension to return. the other 7-speed shifter goes and returns well without any tension helping to shift down. I am not sure if I am clear. but i think the problem is on the shifter I guess. I have already clean it with WD40 and lubricated with 3-1 oil and it does not difference. I guess I will have to live with it.
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