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Old 11-12-11, 09:58 AM
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Beginnier Advice - Spoke wrench

Picked up a Kilo TT during the summer and I believe my front wheel is not trued. I was looking at the videos on how to true them and it seems quite easy (just need to take my time and make small adjustments).

I have been looking at spoke wrenches, but I cannot find out how large my spokes are on my Kilo. They are the factory wheel (36h aluminum aero section) I have Googled it, but was unable to come up with anything. Does anyone know what size they are? Also the wrench below, has anyone used? I did not see any bad reviews on it. Thanks.

This is what I wanted to pick up:



https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Spok...ef=pd_sim_sg_1

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Old 11-12-11, 10:27 AM
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I have a Park spoke wrench like the one pictured, and it works great for me. Unfortunately, I have no idea what size your spoke nipples are. You do want to get the right size wrench. Too small and it won't fit. Too large and it will round the nipples so that you can't turn them. Maybe take a wheel in and ask your LBS?
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Old 11-12-11, 10:31 AM
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most likely the red one from park. but could be anything. drop by a shop for help selecting the size and buy it
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Old 11-12-11, 10:36 AM
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I do have and like the Park loop style spoke wrenches. They fit nice in the hand and feel ergonomically right.

I also have one of these, and they are fine for truing a wheel and an occasion wheel build: https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...ductId=3965302 One problem is I have to look at the tool to ensure I am using the correct opening, a minor loss in productivity I suppose.

You could determine the correct Park loop spoke wrench if you have a machinist's caliper and measure the nipple width across the flats. Or if you have a multi-tool, they often have a few spoke wrenches with them and you can try them and see which one fits, then buy the loop spoke wrench. Or if you have a friend with a caliper or multi-tool...
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Old 11-12-11, 11:32 AM
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I've had several wrenched over the years from cheapos to better quality and have settled on the park as you pictured. Since I work on many bikes - not just my own - I picked up the full set and am glad I did. You only have to round off one nipple to convince yourself of the value of good quality and proper fit!

And ditto to what Mudpie said.
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Old 11-12-11, 02:30 PM
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https://www.google.com/products/catal...wBQ#ps-sellers

i have one of these and it works fine. if you're not trueing wheels all the time, then it's a good sub for a set
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Old 11-12-11, 02:33 PM
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Grab the Spin Doctor 3-set - add a Park blue...

Not a bad way to start....

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Old 11-13-11, 08:28 AM
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https://www.pedros.com/multispokewrench.htm used it to make minor adjustments great for multiple bike owners
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Originally Posted by reptilezs View Post
most likely the red one from park. but could be anything. drop by a shop for help selecting the size and buy it
The red Park wrench (SW-2) is intended for older "Japanese" 3.45 mm spoke nipples and is too large for most current spokes. Their black wrench (SW-0) fits DT, Wheelsmith and most other current nipples (3.23 mm). However, these wrenches are so reasonably priced that buying the whole set isn't that much of a cost.
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Old 11-13-11, 10:08 AM
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Measure ?

note how hillrider offers numbers.
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Old 11-13-11, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
The red Park wrench (SW-2) is intended for older "Japanese" 3.45 mm spoke nipples and is too large for most current spokes. Their black wrench (SW-0) fits DT, Wheelsmith and most other current nipples (3.23 mm). However, these wrenches are so reasonably priced that buying the whole set isn't that much of a cost.
eh i find that i use the black one on specialized bikes a lot and higher end wheels on new bikes. i still use the red one on cheaper trek stuff. maybe i am doing it wrong but i have not really looked in to it. nor have i tried the green one. i am only talking about new bikes
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Old 11-13-11, 11:15 AM
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Get yourself a Park SW-7, a quality tool with all three sizes, you will have what you need.. It costs underj$10.
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Old 11-14-11, 06:29 AM
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I prefer the Pedros loop wrenches which hold the nipple by all four sides (the slot is in the corner, like on the side away from the camera in this pic https://www.greyville.com/attachments...jpg?1250764236 ). They're more fiddly to get on, but never hop off or round nipples like the three sided ones can.
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Old 11-15-11, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jolly_ross View Post
I prefer the Pedros loop wrenches which hold the nipple by all four sides (the slot is in the corner, like on the side away from the camera in this pic https://www.greyville.com/attachments...jpg?1250764236 ). They're more fiddly to get on, but never hop off or round nipples like the three sided ones can.
I've got a similar 4 sided gripping one with 4 sizes. It's great to use, although if I was regularly building wheels I'd get the specific size one.
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Old 11-15-11, 02:33 PM
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Save your self some trouble and get four-sided (actually four cornered) spoke wrenches in specific sizes, as others have said.
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Park Tool also makes a 3 in one spoke wrench that has the three most common sizes. This is what I use and I like it.

https://www.parktool.com/product/trip...ke-wrench-sw-7
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Save your self some trouble and get four-sided (actually four cornered) spoke wrenches in specific sizes, as others have said.
I tried upgrading from my 2 sided Park to a 4 sided model (black) and found it was a lot harder to seat.

Having never damaged an alloy nipple in a wheel I built (anti-seize helps) while make adjustments in daylight I switched back to the 2-sided wrench.
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Avenir Pro Spoke Wrench Set

https://www.amazon.com/Avenir-Pro-Spo.../dp/B00165Q93A

Price: $9.66 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details

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My favorite is the Spokey. It holds the nipple on three sides and has big leverage, very easy to manipulate. It was Sheldon Brown's (RIP!) favorite too.



The red one is 3.25mm, the black is 3.40mm.
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The Park is my favorite spoke wrench.
When I lost my Park, I got a Spokey, but did not like it.
I was very happy when I found my Park one somewhere under a cupboard in my shed. The Spokey is now in my saddlebag.
I don;t like the multi sided spoke wrenches, they seem to be lesser quality.
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Old 11-16-11, 10:18 AM
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Thanks guys.
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I've used them all (apart from Pedros) and the one mentioned by Mikezs is the best in my opinion, and you'll definitely get the size you want (and for any other bike when you get addicted to the sense of power you get when you get a wheel 100% true).

https://www.freemanscycles.co.uk/fat-...spoke-key.html
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4 sided



https://www.pklie.de/spoke_wrench.html
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For just truing wheels, I've found the Park SW-7 just fine. I haven't needed the one size that's not on the wrench.

For building wheels, I just go into my local co-op and use their stand and wrenches.
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I like the idea of 4-sided spokes wrenches...have tried 'em...that aspect is definitely better in terms of nipple a abuse.

However, I have to say the original steel loop design of the Park Tool wrench seems to be the best fit for the hands. I've tried the others including the Spokey...the others never quite seem to feel right. And because of that they slow me down.

So I've stuck with Park and Park copies....

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