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Bicycletrain 02-20-12 10:11 PM

To quick release the trailer I use the quick release seat post and leave the seat attached to the trailer or just slide it off.

DX-MAN 02-20-12 10:13 PM

OP, what you are describing is the same design as a BOB trailer -- they attach at the rear axle, and release quickly. So check them out and adapt the idea of what they do.

avtandil 02-21-12 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by bobotech (Post 13878131)
The only problem is that the OP built a single wheel trailer. It needs 2 attachment points on either side of the bike frame. You want the attachment points rather spread apart so the leverage isn't concentrated which could allow the trailer to twist out of line with the rest of the bike. The OP mentioned that he wanted to attach the trailer to the seat stay. The more I think about it, the worse of an idea that would be for a single wheel locked frame trailer to use a seat stay or seat post as a lock point to keep the trailer lined up with the rest of the bike.

You want to have a rather wide attachment point for the trailer frame. That way it spreads the leverage across a wide point and doesn't concentrate it all at one point. The seat stay is only about 34mm wide. The rear drop outs are about 135-150mm. Best to attach the frame to the drop out area.

If the trailer was a 2 wheel trailer, then you would only need one hitch attachment point since there would not be any appreciable side loading. You could then use the seat post as the attachment or even the seat stay.

oh bro..i did not think about it.....u r 100% right....i just called the guy who helps me and asked to stop working.....but regarding that i have some questions
1. if i change quick release on rear wheel what size would i need? i am thinking to get an used fork and to attach it to trailer so i will mount trailer like rear wheel. but will that thin thing could handle 10-20 kg? maybe 30 kg.....i was thinking that quick release would brake apart.

avtandil 02-21-12 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by avtandil (Post 13878592)
oh bro..i did not think about it.....u r 100% right....i just called the guy who helps me and asked to stop working.....but regarding that i have some questions
t will that thin thing could handle 10-20 kg? maybe 30 kg.....i was thinking that quick release would brake apart.

and one more....i watched bob trailer mount...but and i thought it bob quick reliese had two fixed screw 1 for wheel and second for trailer...but it seems that they just put trailer fork and attach thin wire under it.....i also checked extrawheel http://www.extrawheel.com/en/3/instructions_voyager/
they have same qucik reliese system but a little bit different...the trailer fork is not fixed......strange.....only thing i want mount that would combine comfortability and safety
the last thing i want to ask for your attention is how to bind suitcase on trailer....my trailer is very symilar to this http://www.tonystrailers.com/cargo/fd.JPG but mine is one wheeled and suitcase is like this http://www.bagcompany.co.uk/lumiere-...case-186-p.asp
i am planning to sew on suitcase some hard cloth and put zips on it...so i will bind it to my trailer frame.....9sorry for bad explanation)

avtandil 02-21-12 09:41 PM

what u think about extrawheel quick reliese and fork? http://www.biketrailershop.com/extra...rk-p-1383.html
http://www.biketrailershop.com/extra...se-p-1378.html

avtandil 02-21-12 10:44 PM

plz can anyone answer????

avtandil 02-22-12 06:00 AM

hello?
is anybody here? plzzzz

mctrek 02-22-12 08:44 AM

I have a Burley trailer that I use with my kids. You might want to check out Burley's forged aluminum attachments that the quick release wheel axle/lever goes through. Here is a link to one.
http://www.biketrailershop.com/burle...rts-c-148.html

Then you run a C clip/lock pin 1/4x2 lock pin through it.
http://www.burley.com/home/bur/listitems_200_15?

So your trailer would have to have attachment points with a hole in it for the C clip lock pin to go through. Seeing the link above you might be able to use reinforced hose??

Just trying to help, I don't know if you would have access to Burley parts in Georgia but a machine shop with a CNC could make you something similar in no time.

avtandil 02-22-12 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by mctrek (Post 13883293)
I have a Burley trailer that I use with my kids. You might want to check out Burley's forged aluminum attachments that the quick release wheel axle/lever goes through. Here is a link to one.
http://www.biketrailershop.com/burle...rts-c-148.html

Then you run a C clip/lock pin 1/4x2 lock pin through it.
http://www.burley.com/home/bur/listitems_200_15?

So your trailer would have to have attachment points with a hole in it for the C clip lock pin to go through. Seeing the link above you might be able to use reinforced hose??

Just trying to help, I don't know if you would have access to Burley parts in Georgia but a machine shop with a CNC could make you something similar in no time.

good one bro thank u that will definitely work..but what u think about extrawheel ????

p2templin 02-22-12 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by avtandil (Post 13882832)
hello?
is anybody here? plzzzz

Dude, take a chill pill. If you want professional help in a timely manner, go to your LBS and pay them. Around here, we're free help, in case you hadn't noticed.

avtandil 02-22-12 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by p2templin (Post 13883435)
Dude, take a chill pill. If you want professional help in a timely manner, go to your LBS and pay them. Around here, we're free help, in case you hadn't noticed.

lol man,,,,i asked for help ones that r ready to help me , not u with ur weird comments and if someon helps me i am extremely thankful and respect their help.....and if it was a local shop or someone whom i asked around me i would not ask for help.......and i am in rush because i have visa and it expires in 3 month and trying my best to finish all necessary things for my trip in time.....

a77impala 02-23-12 05:33 AM

2 Attachment(s)
My home made single wheel trailer. Connects in under 30 seconds.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=238547http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=238548

avtandil 02-23-12 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by a77impala (Post 13887253)

nice bro.....how u attach it? u use quick release?

a77impala 02-23-12 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by avtandil (Post 13887438)
nice bro.....how u attach it? u use quick release?

The trailer frame drop outs rest on shoulder bolts attached to flat steel brackets
fastened to bike drop outs by the quick release and fender mounts. The trailer is prevented from detaching by stops that fall under the shoulder bolts and are locked in place by tightening Allen screws.
The Allen wrench hanging from trailer frame is left there for quick access.

avtandil 02-23-12 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by a77impala (Post 13887560)
The trailer frame drop outs rest on shoulder bolts attached to flat steel brackets
fastened to bike drop outs by the quick release and fender mounts. The trailer is prevented from detaching by stops that fall under the shoulder bolts and are locked in place by tightening Allen screws.
The Allen wrench hanging from trailer frame is left there for quick access.

what u think if i just buy longer quick release and attach trailer 'fork' togother with bicycle rear wheel? i mean in quick release all rearwheel, bicycle rear fork, cassette and trailer fork... all on one quick release (skewer).....what u think? will it work?

avtandil 02-23-12 10:33 AM

i was thinking to buy some titanium skewers...can they handle the job? or aluminum is enough? i will putt some resin between bicycle and trailer forks

fietsbob 02-23-12 11:58 AM

steel shaft skewers are fine.. gilding a turd is silly..

avtandil 02-23-12 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 13888458)
steel shaft skewers are fine.. gilding a turd is silly..

what does turd mean?

Glynis27 02-23-12 12:44 PM

Try this link. It has lots of good info and a few different hitch designs with pros and cons of each.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-Trailer-Hitch

avtandil 02-23-12 12:48 PM

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ur56ib&s=5
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ambll2&s=5
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=zu46th&s=5
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9zount&s=5
here are my pics..........first two is my trailer and second is thing that will go between trailer and bicycle...that rusty thing i took from automobiles stirring wheel.....but now i am thinking to change my trailer to two wheels just because i thing it will be more sturdy and will have only one attachment

fietsbob 02-23-12 12:53 PM


stirring
you stir paint and cake batter, .. then stirring is the word
To steer : steering ..

avtandil 02-23-12 12:56 PM

lol

avtandil 02-23-12 01:03 PM

well English is not my first language...but thanks for spelling check...i don't know how its called in English...but u get my point...this part turns wheels.....

avtandil 02-23-12 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Glynis27 (Post 13888634)
Try this link. It has lots of good info and a few different hitch designs with pros and cons of each.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-Trailer-Hitch

thanks :)

fietsbob 02-23-12 01:40 PM

I'd be useless if you used Russia's language and alphabet..


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