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my threaded headset gets loose
i am about to take apart my threaded headset which is always getting loose.
I tighten it and it loosens, its very annoying. What should I keep my eye out for? what can cause this? |
keyed washer, top nut bottoming out on steerer
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stripped threads
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Originally Posted by chico1st
(Post 13901887)
i am about to take apart my threaded headset which is always getting loose.
I tighten it and it loosens, its very annoying. What should I keep my eye out for? what can cause this? |
2 proper head set wrenches ..
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Make sure you're tightening the cone against the locknut well. I've had a couple over the years that just refuse to stay locked even when it seemed I really had 'em cinched. I used blue Loctite, but a Gorilla Headlock would be even better, I'd imagine:
http://abundantadventures.com/quads.html#HEADLOCK Tangent question: What's the preferred set of tools for knurled top cone style Headsets? I've been getting by with pipe wrench + headset wrench, but curious what others do. |
Originally Posted by reptilezs
(Post 13901929)
keyed washer, top nut bottoming out on steerer
The most common cause of headsets that get loose quickly is the top nut bottoming on the steerer, and a washer underneath to solve it. Headsets without keyed washers (forks without keyways) are also hard to keep adjusted and tend to loosen very slowly over time. This is harder to fix if the fork doesn't have a keyway, and might call for locktite in the locknut threads. |
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 13902327)
Tangent question: What's the preferred set of tools for knurled top cone style Headsets? I've been getting by with pipe wrench + headset wrench, but curious what others do. |
why would you use a pipe wrench? that stuff gouges, badly too.
use an adjustable with a headset wrench. |
I have the same type of "Old School" headset, it is ROUND and knurled. You can not put a wrench on ROUND. I use a pair of Channel-locks with a rag or scrap of inner tube on the chrome to protect it.
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Teflon tape on the fork threads.
BL |
Originally Posted by reptilezs
(Post 13902766)
usually found on kids bikes and cheap stuff? just grab the channellocks
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
(Post 13902374)
Headsets without keyed washers (forks without keyways) are also hard to keep adjusted and tend to loosen very slowly over time. This is harder to fix if the fork doesn't have a keyway, and might call for locktite in the locknut threads.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 13908490)
I hand file the keyway into the forks I build. It doesn't have to extend all the way to the end of the threads; but just far enough to hold the toothed washer.
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You might also want to check the alignment of the cups. The steering head may not have been faced properly, or the cups seated properly. A vernier across the cups should give some indication even without a measurement. The dumbest thing I tripped across was cups that were installed in a headtube without facing the headtube or even grinding the internal weld ridge in the headtube. The bearings seemed smooth enough, but I doubt the cups were either round or straight so pressure on the bearings couldn't possibly be uniform. Since I was installing a new race - it wasn't a big deal to just do what should have been done the first time.
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Also a cracked (usually lower) headset cup will cause mysterious loosness.
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