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Old 03-14-12, 07:09 PM
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If you wanted to ride where the tumbleweeds blow what would you do to try to limit flat tires
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Old 03-15-12, 07:31 AM
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what size are your tires? 700x35? get an old pair or worn out 700x32's
and cut the wire bead off. then stick 'em inside your new tires.

now take a couple old tubes. cut off the valves, slice around the inside
of the tube all the way around. wrap 'em around your new tubes, then
stick 'em inside the tires inside the tires.

did this for lotsa loaded touring in texas, new mexico, australia. thousands
of happy miles without flats.
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Old 03-15-12, 11:30 AM
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thanks sadlesores

I was thinking about a trimmed tire inside- appreciate your details
APEX Diamondback tires 26X1.50
Giant Rincon tires 26X2.10

burrs all over the place here- strong winds blow tumbleweeds back and forth- 3 miles to the nearest blacktop

I was in Wallmart yesterday- looking at tires and tubes
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What's wrong with tire liners?
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Old 03-15-12, 06:59 PM
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I actually thought about aluminum thin enough you can cut with a scissors- then duct tape over it
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rather than aluminum - try the tyvek material that is used on priority mail envelopes - you can get 2 or 3 from your local PO for free, cut them into liner sized strips, tape the ends and you are good to go. I would avoid duct tape - its too messy and may rupture a tube if it gets tangled. use painters tape .

good luck
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thanks

dismounted the tires on the Rincon- little needle like barbs sticking thru the inside-
dang but these burrs are something- you really don't want to walk arround here with tennis shoes

do you think that tyvek will stop these little needles-

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Originally Posted by AlphaDogg View Post
What's wrong with tire liners?

I would have thought these would work too. and or those fancy Armadillo tires.
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OP-Just suck it up and pay $20 for tire liners and $10 for new tubes. Problem solved.
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What's probably most effective for small thorn or cactus needles is a liquid sealant. Something like Slime or Cafe latex does a great job for these tiny punctures with minimal impact or riding performance. They also make "thornproof" tubes specifically for that environment. They're twice as thick on the tire side and pretty effective at reducing flats. Possibly liquid sealant combined with a thornproof would be the most effective combo, or a decent tire liner.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
What's probably most effective for small thorn or cactus needles is a liquid sealant.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about goatheads.
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Originally Posted by AlphaDogg View Post
I'm pretty sure he's talking about goatheads.
Probably. I'm an easterner and don't have that particular annoyance. In any case from speaking to a number of people who ride the southwestern desert over the years, the general consensus was that you couldn't prevent punctures long term and sealants were the best answer. Here where I ride sealants aren't as effective because most punctures are from glass and the cuts too large to seal well.
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I used to run Slime in my tubes when I lived in the desert. You'll want to be running schraeder valves, IMO. I dunno how many 26" removable core presta tubes are out there. There are prefilled slime tubes but they're kinda pricey. Need to replace yearly.

Mr. Tuffy tire liners work a bit better for me. Don't bother with the light Mr. Tuffy, get the heavy ones. They're good for 15 years or so.
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Originally Posted by AlphaDogg View Post
I'm pretty sure he's talking about goatheads.
It could be goatheads, though we sand burrs are a bit different. We have more sand burrs around here than goatheads. They are smaller than goatheads, but still very sharp. Solutions that have worked for me have included good quality tires such as Vittoria Randonneurs, or even better yet, tire liners. I run Randos on two of my bikes, and liners in another bike. Slime tubes worked long enough to get me home, but I would come out later to find flat tires due to sand burrs when using slime tubes.

A riding partner of mine even had flat tire problems with his Gatorskins, caused by sand burrs.
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OP-Just suck it up and pay $20 for tire liners and $10 for new tubes. Problem solved.
Agreed. We have sand burrs. Slime allows holes then leaks and makes a mess. Liners prevent the holes from happening. Only drawback to liners is the weight but it's a no-brainer. Get the liners.
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Originally Posted by Scooby214 View Post
It could be goatheads, though we sand burrs are a bit different. We have more sand burrs around here than goatheads. They are smaller than goatheads, but still very sharp. Solutions that have worked for me have included good quality tires such as Vittoria Randonneurs, or even better yet, tire liners. I run Randos on two of my bikes, and liners in another bike. Slime tubes worked long enough to get me home, but I would come out later to find flat tires due to sand burrs when using slime tubes.

A riding partner of mine even had flat tire problems with his Gatorskins, caused by sand burrs.
good point- both- sand burrs- actually are from the tumbleweeds- goatheads where they don't spray crops- could show you a picture of the yard and fields- but I think you have the picture

bought a John Deer tractor/mower- nice that they had the black sealant - sandburrs just about cover the tire sometimes- they don't go flat but loose air- suppose that real low air pressure has something to do with that

bikes just real thin tires, high pressure, but good tires on all- before I replace the tubes and work at removing those needle like things I wanted to see what you folks thought-
actually thanks to all here- first post and you've listed good ideas

don't laugh- son stopped in one day and took out a bike- soon back- took out another- you know how that goes with the wise kids-
soooo- 2 bikes down- 4 tires flat- words- I sort of said- you going to fix those- response- you have plenty of time and nothing to do
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