Why isn't this spindle long enough to use in 68mm BB?
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Why isn't this spindle long enough to use in 68mm BB?
I'm trying to get a bike ready for sale. Early 90s Schwinn Cross Cut.
I'm trying to install an old loose-ball BB I had laying around. I put the cups in with the spindle (and 1/4" bearings) but I cannot thread in the adjustable cup enough. Even with it all the way in, the spindle has significant play. It's like I'm trying to put a 68mm BB in a 73mm shell, but the shell is definitely 68mm.
It's a Shimano bottom bracket, with markings "68 W" and "3H" on the spindle. I got it with a bunch of other parts so it has never been installed on any of my bikes before. What's going on here?
I'm trying to install an old loose-ball BB I had laying around. I put the cups in with the spindle (and 1/4" bearings) but I cannot thread in the adjustable cup enough. Even with it all the way in, the spindle has significant play. It's like I'm trying to put a 68mm BB in a 73mm shell, but the shell is definitely 68mm.
It's a Shimano bottom bracket, with markings "68 W" and "3H" on the spindle. I got it with a bunch of other parts so it has never been installed on any of my bikes before. What's going on here?
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Weird... according to Sheldon's crib-sheet, that should definitely have the right middle length. Dumb question, but it's all I can think of -- are you sure the BB's are 1/4"?
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Are the threads in the shell cut far enough?
What came out of it?
What came out of it?
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The shell isn't the problem, if I thread it in any more I will not be able to attach the lockring! Not sure what came out, as I bought the bare frame/fork/headset. Right now I have a really nice 68mm cartridge BB in it that I would like to keep.
Besides "Shimano" and "Japan" it says "BC 1.37"
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BB cups have been made in differing "wall" thicknesses, and the matching spindles had differing spreads between the bearing surfaces. Maybe you mixed a thin wall set of cups with a spindle meant for thicker walled cups. Andy.
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I am unaware of any other thick walled BB than Campy Nuovo Record and Super Record cups. Even with these the spindle length did not vary from the thin to thick wall.
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Even with these the spindle length did not vary from the thin to thick wall.
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Well, for what ever reason, you seem to have a mis-match between the spindle and cups of your bottom bracket so unless you have a source of other parts to try, buy a cheap cartridge bb and finish the project. That way you get to keep the nice one.
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I knew if I wrote that it would probably be wrong; however the OP says everything is Shimano...I do remember however one time I bought a 68mm Shimano NJS spindle that would not fit in some Shimano NJS cups; turned out the spindle was 10 pitch.
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