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TrojanHorse 04-29-12 01:36 PM

Custom Cassette ratio
 
I waiting for my new compact crank to arrive to replace my standard crank. I'm currently using a 12-26 SRAM force cassette and in the interests of riding up some steep hills (and because the compact only goes to 50) I was thinking of replacing the cassette with an 11-28.

The 12/26 includes: 12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,26

The 11/28 includes: 11,12,13,14,15,17,19,22,25,28

Has anybody ever mixed and matched cogs? I'm thinking I'd rather have a 16 than a 12. I rarely use the smallest cog unless I'm bombing down a hill so I can't imagine missing a 12 much. I don't know if there would be shifting issues going from 13 to 11 though.

fietsbob 04-29-12 02:39 PM

Older shimano cassettes had 3 bolts holding a bunch of cogs together.

You can tear those down and change pieces.

newer stuff , makes sub carriers in 1 piece, of alloy,
so, more compatible with lighter non steel freehub splines.

& then only the top 2 smallest cogs are loose.

Al1943 04-29-12 07:35 PM

My recommendation would be to use the 12,13,14,15,16,17,19,22,25,28. The 13 to 11 jump would be too big. The 12 needs to be the first position cog with the built-in spacer. The 50 - 12 combination would be big enough, good for at least 33 mph at 100 crank rpm.

TrojanHorse 04-29-12 08:51 PM

If I recall, SRAM Force cassetttes have separate spacers for each cog - nothing pre-welded like my old Shimano stuff. I could be mistaken, I'll know for sure in about 2 days when I take it apart again.

So Al - why do you say it would be too big? That's my suspicion but I'm wondering what the reason is.

Al1943 04-29-12 09:06 PM

In most riding conditions shifting from the 13 to the 11 will instantly cut your cadence and momentum too much unless you are charging down a steep hill. There will be more situations where the 12 will fit your needs better. Empirical studies have shown that most riders perform best in a cadence range of about 85 to 105 rpm.

TrojanHorse 04-29-12 10:51 PM

OK, I was afraid you'd say something about technical performance. The only time I reckon I"ll be in the 11 is exactly charging down a steep hill.

I'll probably try the 11-28 as-is for a while to see if I miss the 16. I have no way to track which cogs I'm normally in without looking backwards and I haven't been that interested in it till now. If I find too large of a gap, I may become interested. :)

Chris_W 04-30-12 12:18 AM

The problem with the SRAM 11-28 cassette for me is the big jump from 19 to 22, right near the middle of the cassette. I gave up on this cassette for this reason. Shimano's 11-28 cassette avoids this by putting a 4-tooth jump at the top end (24 to 28), which is an improvement. However, I also don't feel like the 11 tooth is necessary, so prefer a 12-28 or 12-30, which Shimano now make as part of the Tiagra series; a new lighter, Ultegra-level version should be becoming available this summer.

Kimmo 04-30-12 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 14160001)
If I recall, SRAM Force cassetttes have separate spacers for each cog - nothing pre-welded like my old Shimano stuff.

Welded? No.

Old Shimano cassettes may be rivetted together. Easy to drill out the rivets too; they're not necessary.


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