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Old 05-01-12, 04:44 PM
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Suzue Rear Tandem Hub Rebuild/Axle Replacement Questions

The rear axle on our Santana tandem is bent. The hub is a 140mm spacing Suzue, sealed bearings I'm pretty sure. I don't want to tear the hub down until I have parts in hand because we ride the tandem a lot. Do all Suzue sealed bearing hub axles have inner shoulders, or will an axle like this work?

If this straight axle won't work, where can I get replacement axles for old Suzue sealed bearing hubs????

I believe this length (187mm) is correct, and the size likely fits the ID of the sealed cartridges, but my concern is if there needs to be inner shoulders.

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Need a pic to see if this is an old original, or a new re-release with different internals...

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The rear axle on our Santana tandem is bent. The hub is a 140mm spacing Suzue, sealed bearings I'm pretty sure. I don't want to tear the hub down until I have parts in hand because we ride the tandem a lot. Do all Suzue sealed bearing hub axles have inner shoulders, or will an axle like this work?

If this straight axle won't work, where can I get replacement axles for old Suzue sealed bearing hubs????

I believe this length (187mm) is correct, and the size likely fits the ID of the sealed cartridges, but my concern is if there needs to be inner shoulders.

Thanks!
I don't think the Wheels Mfg. axle will work. The Suzue cartridge bearing hubs I'm familiar with require the built-in flange.

Have you called Santana? Or talked to Soma in San Francisco? They sell current Suzue hubs, and they may know how to get the correct axle.
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I feared that. I suppose it is possible it isn't the sealed cartridge version (the front is but it may have come from a different Santana) in which case the Wheels Mfg. #20 axle may work. I haven't taken it apart yet, but I could/should pull the drum brake and/or freewheel off and get a closer look (and take some pictures). Hopefully this evening I'll know more.

Thanks for the Soma idea! I don't hold out a lot of hope from Santana but might call them too.
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If this is old and has the drum brake which threads onto the non-drive side, and takes a freewheel on the drive side, then just about any quality solid axle set will do....it is likely the 80s, early 90s loose ball bearing setup.

Just make sure you duplicate the spacing on each side and have some extra spacers at hand just in case.

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@mrrabbit, I sure hope you're right. The front hub is definitely a sealed bearing (cartridge bearings) type hub, but it may have been from a different tandem (the guy we got the tandem from owned 5 tandems--4 Santanas and a Paramount). I can not say for sure if the rear is, or not. I still haven't pulled the brake and/or cluster to be sure (had to work on my car last night instead). I'll dig in deeper and report back if I need further help. Thank you!!!!
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If this is old and has the drum brake which threads onto the non-drive side, and takes a freewheel on the drive side, then just about any quality solid axle set will do....it is likely the 80s, early 90s loose ball bearing setup.

Just make sure you duplicate the spacing on each side and have some extra spacers at hand just in case.

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Yeah- you have to watch it with the old Suzue hubs. Some say "Sealed" on a big black-and-silver sticker, but they're actually standard loose-ball hubs with aggressive sealing at the cones. Then there's others with cartridge bearings which require a special axle that has steps machined into it. Sometimes the only way to tell is to tear the hub apart.
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