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INOX NYC 06-27-12 05:59 PM

Can't mount Aerospoke
 
Got my new front Aerospoke delivered today but it has an axle like I've never seen. When you place it on the fork it leaves nothing to screw the nuts onto to hold it in place. Am I missing something?

rhenning 06-27-12 06:10 PM

It is called a quick release. Most if not all Aerospoke wheels came with them. For that matter almost any better wheel will have them. Roger

INOX NYC 06-27-12 06:14 PM

I know what a quick release is, this hub has no mounting bolts.

CACycling 06-27-12 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by INOX NYC (Post 14414147)
I know what a quick release is, this hub has no mounting bolts.

Mounting bolts to mount to what? There should be a few mm of axle past the lock nuts on each side but should not extend past the outer edge of the DOs.

INOX NYC 06-27-12 06:29 PM

Every wheel I ever used had a threaded bolt extending past the DOs that you put a nut on to hold the wheel. This one does not.

INOX NYC 06-27-12 06:44 PM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=258697

No mounting bolts

mrrabbit 06-27-12 06:51 PM

...and you said you know what a quick release is...

=8-)

CACycling 06-27-12 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by INOX NYC (Post 14414147)
I know what a quick release is, this hub has no mounting bolts.


Originally Posted by INOX NYC (Post 14414188)
Every wheel I ever used had a threaded bolt extending past the DOs that you put a nut on to hold the wheel. This one does not.

Then you have never used a wheel with a QR and are confusing a QR with something else. A quick release will have a skewer that goes through the hole in the center of the axle. You will thread a nut on the end of the skewer after it is installed then clamp down on the QR lever to tighten it all up.

INOX NYC 06-27-12 07:20 PM

I had a Raleigh with quick release and there was still a threaded axle. If I want to bolt this wheel on my fork without QR what do I need? A whole new axle?

mrrabbit 06-27-12 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by INOX NYC (Post 14414339)
I had a Raleigh with quick release and there was still a threaded axle. If I want to bolt this wheel on my fork without QR what do I need? A whole new axle?

Unless Aerospoke offers an end-user conversion kit for additional money, you'll need a whole new wheel.

They do have a website, you know that right?

=8-)

thirdgenbird 06-27-12 07:35 PM

Or buy these:

http://www.deltacycle.com/dcimages/TD9100x.jpg

INOX NYC 06-27-12 07:42 PM

I know they have a website, I already sent them an email, waiting for a response. Very disappointed that for the price of this wheel it does not come with the hardware need to put it on the bike.

thirdgenbird 06-27-12 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by INOX NYC (Post 14414407)
I know they have a website, I already sent them an email, waiting for a response. Very disappointed that for the price of this wheel it does not come with the hardware need to put it on the bike.

It is pretty common for wheels to come without quick release skewers.

Homebrew01 06-27-12 07:48 PM

If it's a brand new wheel from the manufacturer, I would expect the quick release lever to come with it. Since it didn't, you can buy one from a bike shop for $10 - $50.

INOX NYC 06-27-12 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 14414433)
If it's a brand new wheel from the manufacturer, I would expect the quick release lever to come with it. Since it didn't, you can buy one from a bike shop for a $20

My feelings exactly. Very disappointed. The website said nothing about needing additional parts to mount the wheel.

thirdgenbird 06-27-12 08:04 PM

Most customers who buy a single wheels are either replacing one (alread have a skewer) or piece mealing a bike together exactly how they want it and will probably want matching skewers or different ones than what is provided. To me it is the same reason wheels don't come with cassettes, tubes, or tires. Don't be disappointed in them for something you overlooked. Save your disappointment for lateral flex.

mrrabbit 06-27-12 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgenbird (Post 14414490)
Most customers who buy a single wheels are either replacing one (alread have a skewer) or piece mealing a bike together exactly how they want it and will probably want matching skewers or different ones than what is provided. To me it is the same reason wheels don't come with cassettes, tubes, or tires. Don't be disappointed in them for something you overlooked. Save your disappointment for lateral flex.

As with any purchase, do your homework, read the product content/includes/description.

Not rocket science....

=8-)

INOX NYC 06-28-12 01:30 AM

mrrabbit, thanks for trying to make me look stupid for asking for help.

dabac 06-28-12 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by INOX NYC (Post 14414339)
I had a Raleigh with quick release and there was still a threaded axle.

A threaded axle is needed if the hub has cup & cone bearings, to set the bearing adjustment. Wheels/hubs that use cartridge bearings can easily do w/o the threads, as yours does. See the small, smooth, stump of thick pipe in the center of your hub? That's your axle. It'll work just fine together with a q/r.




Originally Posted by INOX NYC (Post 14414339)
If I want to bolt this wheel on my fork without QR what do I need? A whole new axle?

Well, you're gonna need something. If you can't accept a regular q/r, or one of those tool-operated skewers, then the only option left is a new axle.
And the question is if replacing with a threaded/nutted axle is at all doable. I don't know enough about aerospoke to be able to answer that offhand.
Depending on axle, "locknut" and bearing dimensions it can be anything from fairly straightforward to something requiring custom fabrication of support sleeves, spacers, and maybe even bearing replacement.

Homebrew01 06-28-12 06:00 AM

Go to a bike shop, buy a front skewer for $15, have them show you how to use it properly (the wrong way can be deadly), then go ride !

http://www.nashbar.com/images/nashba...s/QUICKREL.PDF

rhenning 06-28-12 08:21 AM

4 Attachment(s)
Aerospokes on Schwinn Peloton, Aerospoke on the bike with quick release closed, Aerospoke with quick release open and a picture of the quick release removed. Wait until you ride the bike with these rims and find out in some wind conditions and speeds the wheels shudder. For what its worth these wheels use sealed bearings so there is really no traditional bearing adjustment. Roger

reddog3 06-28-12 08:29 AM

Partially in the defense of OP, I took a quick look around AeroSpoke's website. There was not one mention of a quick release being needed, nor was there a QR available in the "accessories" section. Also, there was no way to access the "specs" page. Maybe they figured anyone willing to cough up $330 for a plastic wheel would have the knowledge to get it mounted.

I would suspect that if you ordered a "road" wheel it would mount via QR. I would expect a track wheel to be a bolt-on.

What I won't defend is the decision to put another fixie on the street with a plastic spoke front and wire spoke rear!

thirdgenbird 06-28-12 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by dabac (Post 14415397)
Well, you're gonna need something. If you can't accept a regular q/r, or one of those tool-operated skewers, then the only option left is a new axle.
And the question is if replacing with a threaded/nutted axle is at all doable. I don't know enough about aerospoke to be able to answer that offhand.
Depending on axle, "locknut" and bearing dimensions it can be anything from fairly straightforward to something requiring custom fabrication of support sleeves, spacers, and maybe even bearing replacement.

Back when I helped do product testing for Aerospoke the hubs could easily be removed and swapped for different types. We still have the special tool laying around to extract the hubs. I haven't payed enough attention to know if this is still the case however.


Originally Posted by rhenning (Post 14415929)
Wait until you ride the bike with these rims and find out in some wind conditions and speeds the wheels shudder.

it was 50+mph on a tandem that concerned us. The last prototype we tested was a very nice improvement. I believe it went to production as a tandem wheel for a number of years and my dad's tandem was pictured on the homepage. Now it looks to be mostly fixed gears and recumbents.

rhenning 06-28-12 11:50 AM

The Peleton shudders between 14 to 18 MPH depending on wind direction and speed. It can be as low as 11 MPH in a strong headwind. Above and below those speeds it never misses a beat. Those are old wheels so the new ones may be improved. Roger

himespau 06-28-12 11:51 AM

Why do you want to bolt it on? Fear of getting it stolen? If so get a locking skewer like the one shown above. For most other applications a quick release skewer will be good enough.


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