I am still waiting for my free sample. :roflmao2:

Exactly, you have to keep using it every few days because it's good for nothing wax lube. And if you don't get away from it your chain will wear out faster because where there is noise there is accelerated wear happening. And wax based lubes do not protect the chain from rust. The only thing wax crud is for is keeping your hands somewhat nice and clean when you touch the chain, it your a greasephobic then stay with the wax, but be expected to replace your chain and gears every 1,500 miles or less.

Question next that will pop up is some poster or posters recommending $20 or more for 1 oz's of super duper magical formula lube...not necessary, any of the main line lubes like TriFlow Superior Dry and Finish Line Dry Teflon, either of these can be usually found at most LBS's and their cheap.

Make sure before you apply any new brand and type of lube you completely clean the chain. Speaking of cleaning chains, the chain cleaning machine made by Finish Line works very well eliminating the hassle of removing the chain to clean it. Simply use the product according to directions (turning the crank slowly or else you'll spray dirty solvent all over the bike and house), then when the fluid gets black drain and refill with fresh and repeat after wiping the chain down with a rag, once the second time is done rewipe with a rag and let the bike set for about 12 hours for the solvent to thoroughly evaporate. Then you apply the lube one drop to each roller pin, no need to get the lube on the outside of the plates but no big deal if you do because after lubing just wipe the sides of the chain down. Once you applied the lube let it dry for 12 hours and repeat.

I've been using wax based lubes for years with no accelerated chain wear or rust.

Edit: I also dont gave to clean it like you would with wet lubricants.

It has been well documented that what you said is not true.

When the chain starts to make noise you are putting additional wear on that chain, no if's and's or but's, the noise comes from metal to metal contact and that is wear plain and simple. Now if you can keep applying the wax base lube every 45 miles or so then fine, but that means you'll need to carry a bottle of on longer rides so you reapply it, assuming you care about your chain's life.

This is the reason so many people can't get more then 3,000 miles out of a chain and half that on the new 10 speed chains. I easily get double those miles, and a friend of mine who has a 10 speed chain bike easily gets 5,000 miles on his chain.

Most of this crap about wax is just another way to get people to buy a product so you can buy chains faster. I use to use wax base lubes too, I discovered that my chain life dropped by two thirds! But like a bone head I tired a different waxed base crud and had the same results, still being a bone head because all the LBS's swore by this crap, I tried another wax based crud with the same results. Does definition of insanity speak to anyone here? Will it did to me so I changed back to oil base lubes and my chains lives went back up.

But hey, you use whatever you want to use on your chains; you can use ground up powdered pig bones, blend it with a carrier, and get the same results as wax!

If you are tring to start an argument you picked the wrong person. I am 100% ok with you thinking that I am lying about my chain life.

I'm sure you're right and I'll do that. I just happen to have some household lubricants onhand. Looking for a cheap and convenient lubricant for all moving parts, meaning something I can pick up locally.

Well then why didn't you say so? There a number of posters on the board that mix mineral spirits with motor oil (3:1 seems to be a good ratio).

OK, tell you what. send me the $1.75 postage and I'll give you a free sample. Or you can visit Velocult in Portland. Tell them I sent you and they'll oil your chain for free. Just be sure to wipe it down and have it ready for lube before going. It might be nice to bring a beer or coffee but that's strictly up to you.

For those in other cities who want to give Chain-L a shot, check the dealer list on the site, and make an appointment for a free chain lube.

Maybe I'll do that this month.

I'm not a fan of wax lubes, and my stuff is about as different as it's possible to be, but I don't doubt you're satisfied with it's performance, and getting good chain life. There's more than one way to lube a chain, and each has benefits and drawbacks. Used properly, and under the right conditions wax lubes perform reasonably well. However they tend to have a shorter service life, and it can be very short for those who's chains run at higher tensions, such as when hill climbing.

Though I make chain lube, I try to avoid these debates because they're usually of a pointless apples vs oranges nature.

I just did my monthly Chain-L application to my commuter bike's chain yesterday. I take my chain off to apply Chain-L and let it sit for half an hour for the lube to wick in. Then I wipe it down really well and install the chain. I do other tasks while the chain is sitting, so it really doesn't take long. I get about 400-500 miles between Chain-L applications. It is nice being able to mostly ignore the chain during the month.

i have been using teflon spray dry lube on my ducati motorcycle oring chain for 6000miles. i noticed the rollers quickly achieved a high polish. i have been using it on the bicycles to, seems ok to me but i do not put that many miles on the bicycles as i only ride 50 to 60 miles a week in good weather. i noticed that steels when highly polished are less prone to rust, less places for moisture to gather i guess.

I use Chain L on two of my bikes that I put new chains on, but the jury is still out on it. I know how long my chains last using teflon dry lube and I have a ways to go before I figure out if Chain L will make the chain last longer.

I also found that the Chain L is good for about 500 miles with wipe downs after every ride, then I clean the chain and reapply the stuff.

I think Chain L is nothing more then STP oil treatment with some other added goo perhaps. I say that because it's stringy just like STP, and slippery if you get it on your fingers just like STP.