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Old 03-18-07, 09:41 AM
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One pump to rule them all? (sorry Mr Tolkien)

Could this be a good pump for mtb and road: https://yhst-84224226242177.stores.ya...erpropump.html

I use the same hydration pack for road and mtb and would like to find a single pump for both.

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All you need is a topeak road morph. Does schraeder and presta and is a kickass pump to boot.
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Originally Posted by operator
All you need is a topeak road morph. Does schraeder and presta and is a kickass pump to boot.
Agree 100%. I got a tire up tho 120psi very quickly along side the road last week with mine. It is a better pump than many floor models.
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The Morphe's best feature is the separate hose that keeps you from snapping off the valve stem when you really bear down to get the last few psi.
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The Topeak doesn't seem to have the volume for a mtb tire and is too long to boot. I'm looking for something that will fit in the same space as my current mini-pump. Why? Because I hate having to pack and unpack my bag based on the type of riding I'm doing.

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So far I've been happy with my Blackburn full size frame pump.....although it does require some muscle to get to desired pressure.
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I've considered a frame pump, especially since my road frame has a pump tab. However, I'd still like some feedback on this specific pump. It sounds like a neat pump, but the only info I can find is what's on the velo-orange website and one amazon feedback (100% btw).

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Originally Posted by allencb
I've considered a frame pump, especially since my road frame has a pump tab. However, I'd still like some feedback on this specific pump. It sounds like a neat pump, but the only info I can find is what's on the velo-orange website and one amazon feedback (100% btw).

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Actually, I was also very curious about that pump before I bought my full size frame pump. It's just that I didn't want to make the same mistake and have it end up in my junk drawer with the rest of mini-pumps I've experimented with over the years.
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No pump without a flexible hose is worth carrying. You're just going to be looking for a new one after you break the tube at the valve once.

I'm not a Topeak rep, but they make possibly THE best mini-pump ever. The *morph also comes with a mounting bracket to go on your frame.
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I have the Morph and it works REALLY well. Love the foot pad holder thing (easy to get some real pressure). Love the hose. Love the gauge. But darn, it is really heavy.
The bracket makes you lose a water bottle holder, unless you zip tie it under the top tube (YECH)
I found an old slide-in-under-the-bottle holder to use, but I had to wrap the end pieces of the pump in cork tape to have it NOT rattle on the bike.
It's the worst pump I've found, except for all the others. I'll use it 'till I can do better (or at least lighter.)
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Originally Posted by cccorlew
I have the Morph and it works REALLY well. Love the foot pad holder thing (easy to get some real pressure). Love the hose. Love the gauge. But darn, it is really heavy.
The bracket makes you lose a water bottle holder, unless you zip tie it under the top tube (YECH)
I found an old slide-in-under-the-bottle holder to use, but I had to wrap the end pieces of the pump in cork tape to have it NOT rattle on the bike.
It's the worst pump I've found, except for all the others. I'll use it 'till I can do better (or at least lighter.)
You got to be kidding me. How is it the worst pump you've used besides the weight? Are you a weight weenie?
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Road morph is the deal. If the weight is an issue for you might want to ask your sponsors why the team car isn't there with a new bike when you flat out.
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Originally Posted by operator
You got to be kidding me. How is it the worst pump you've used besides the weight? Are you a weight weenie?
The worst pump I've ever used EXCEPT FOR ALL THE OTHERS.
This is a clever way (I thought) to say, I love this pump. Heck, I can pump to 120 and live, and still have the stem on my tube. But I wish it weighed about half as much, and that the bracket it comes with was just a bit better designed.
I also wish I could afford to be a weight weenie. Lately my big effort is to remove weight from the engine as that seems to be the cheapest route. It seems to be working.
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So nobody's actually *used* the pump in question?

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The Cycleaire looks promising. So far, only available in the UK (and on Ebay $$$).
I want one!


https://www.cyclaire.com/bikepump.html
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Originally Posted by cccorlew
The bracket makes you lose a water bottle holder, unless you zip tie it under the top tube (YECH)
Try using the longer screws provided with the pump and putting the cage on top of the pump holder.
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I'm from Missouri so you have to demonstrate a pump that promises to do everything before I'll believe it.

The laws of physics can't be violated no matter who makes the pump. Short strokes mean that you can't move a very large volume of air with each stroke. Mountain tires require a large volume of air at around 40 psi or so. Road tires take less volume but at 100psi so they still take a lot of strokes.

The advertising copy says this pump will inflate a road tire to 100psi with 100 strokes. I don't think that my full length HPX will do that. It doesn't say what engineering break through makes it possible to inflate a tire faster with a mini pump than a full length HPX. I'd have to see one work before I'll believe it.
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I never heard of that Quicker Pro Pump but it is rather heavy at 160 grams, which may mean it's using quality components? You guys all yak about this pump or that and then say this or that pump broke. I find that odd. I have a mini Silca pump (non-telescopic) that was the lightest mini on the market at 87grms until a carbon fibre pump came along, cost only $12, it will pump to 100psi which is all the highest I go anyways, I've used it now for about 6 or 7 years and it's never broke...not bad for the lightest pump on the market...at the time anyways!

What about the Barbieri TitanOne Pump made of titanium that boasts 142psi capabilities and weighs only 72 grams? https://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?p...ajor=3&minor=9
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
I'd have to see one work before I'll believe it.
Hence the question.

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Huh?

Originally Posted by DieselDan
Try using the longer screws provided with the pump and putting the cage on top of the pump holder.
You got me all pumped up (pardon the pun) and I ran out it 10:30 to check my pump and holder.
Maybe I'm missing something, but if I don't see how it's possible to put the cage on TOP of the pump holder. The brackets that hold the pump get covered by the cage. My holder isn't a side holder, it sets the pump square up over the bottle bosses.
If I am missing the obvious, and you can explain it to me, I'll be ever so thrilled.
Photos? Drawings?
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Originally Posted by cccorlew
I have the Morph and it works REALLY well. Love the foot pad holder thing (easy to get some real pressure). Love the hose. Love the gauge. But darn, it is really heavy.
The bracket makes you lose a water bottle holder, unless you zip tie it under the top tube (YECH)
I found an old slide-in-under-the-bottle holder to use, but I had to wrap the end pieces of the pump in cork tape to have it NOT rattle on the bike.
It's the worst pump I've found, except for all the others. I'll use it 'till I can do better (or at least lighter.)
You can easily get a clip to mount it under the water bottle cage.

Mountain bike



or road bike



Or you can mount it under the top tube

Mountain bike



or road bike

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+2 on the road morph. Why +2? Because i liked the first one so much i bought a second one for my other bike.

(shoot an e-mail to blackburn and ask for one of their airstik mounting brackets which fits the road morph perfectly and mounts under a water bottle cage. if you're lucky, they might send it to you for free, just tell them you bought an airstik...) (i bought the airstik, it sucked, then i got the road morph and found it fit in the same bracket)
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[quote=cyccommute]You can easily get a clip to mount it under the water bottle cage.

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Darn. I swear I eyeballed it and was sure it wasn't going to fit. I'm at work now and will have to wait till I'm home to give that a try. There's room for the waterbottle and everything? It looks like the pump is off to the side a bit. Is it? Mine would be DIRECTLY under the bottle...like in your road photo.
Love your other bikes, but I hate the zip ties for the pump holder.

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Originally Posted by cccorlew
Darn. I swear I eyeballed it and was sure it wasn't going to fit. I'm at work now and will have to wait till I'm home to give that a try. There's room for the waterbottle and everything? It looks like the pump is off to the side a bit. Is it? Mine would be DIRECTLY under the bottle...like in your road photo.
Love your other bikes, but I hate the zip ties for the pump holder.
I haven't had a problem with the waterbottle and the pump. It fits just fine on the two bikes that I have the under the bottle cage. There's some adjustment in the clips so that you can get a good fit.

For the touring bike and the hardtail (the white mountain bike), I don't mind the look of the zipties and would rather have the utility but for the orange bike, it's too purty That's the reason I have the pump mounted on the water bottle. I didn't have a choice with the black mountain bike.

By the way, I have different pumps on all of the bikes. (I have at least 6 of the Topeaks in various flavors ) I tend to ride off without a pump otherwise
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Originally Posted by cccorlew
You got me all pumped up (pardon the pun) and I ran out it 10:30 to check my pump and holder.
Maybe I'm missing something, but if I don't see how it's possible to put the cage on TOP of the pump holder. The brackets that hold the pump get covered by the cage. My holder isn't a side holder, it sets the pump square up over the bottle bosses.
If I am missing the obvious, and you can explain it to me, I'll be ever so thrilled.
Photos? Drawings?

You need to look for a clip like this. If you don't have a Performance near, your local shop should be able to find one from QBP. I use the Performance one for my Road Morph but I had to shim it would some loopys from sticky back velcro. And get a velcro band to hold it in place
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