What is this tool?
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Okay, I know what it is but it is a bit obscure and is the combination of 3 tools for a specific purpose; anyone from New York is not allowed to answer :p
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Looks like a convoluted way to get leverage on an allen wrench.
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It's to remove a Campy C-record Crankset w/self-extracing bolts.
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Originally Posted by gearbasher
(Post 14577677)
It's to remove a Campy C-record Crankset w/self-extracing bolts.
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Originally Posted by onespeedbiker
(Post 14577802)
Well this thread is not going to last very long. Indeed that's what it is. The second question is why was it necessary to make such a convoluted tool?
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Originally Posted by onespeedbiker
(Post 14577802)
Well this thread is not going to last very long. Indeed that's what it is. The second question is why was it necessary to make such a convoluted tool?
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Originally Posted by HillRider
(Post 14577825)
This is Campagnolo you are dealing with. They don't need to explain why such complexity is needed. Look at their chains and chain tools for examples.
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It sorta looks like an Allen wrench stuck into that thingy the doctor hits your knee with to check your reflexes. The top almost looks like a stethescope.
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At Campy the motto is, "We make it this way because we can." Convoluted isn't all that easy to make.
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Originally Posted by NOS88
(Post 14579083)
At Campy the motto is, "We make it this way because we can." Convoluted isn't all that easy to make.
In other words, you could do worse than buying Campagnolo. |
So what is the thingy on the allen wrench? just an extender with a hex hole to grip that allen wrench?
Does it have a reduction gear? It resembles a bit the wrench for the wheel bolts on a heavy truck, where instead of handing you a 2meter breaker bar with wrench, it's a small (about 700mm) wrench but with a reduction planetary gear in the head, so you can apply more torque on the bolt. The stationary part (the ring gear), is on the head casing that is resting with an arm on the next bolt. Reduction gear is about 4 to 1. - cool toy, too bad it's only for that socket that is embedded on the key and cannot work with other bits and sockets. |
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Is the short end of the Allen wrench supposed to be used instead? And the other bit is to hold it straight, and you are not supposed to think about how a T-bar handle with a 6mm Allen bit would achieve the same thing?
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Originally Posted by Asi
(Post 14579367)
So what is the thingy on the allen wrench? just an extender with a hex hole to grip that allen wrench?
Does it have a reduction gear? It resembles a bit the wrench for the wheel bolts on a heavy truck, where instead of handing you a 2meter breaker bar with wrench, it's a small (about 700mm) wrench but with a reduction planetary gear in the head, so you can apply more torque on the bolt. The stationary part (the ring gear), is on the head casing that is resting with an arm on the next bolt. Reduction gear is about 4 to 1. - cool toy, too bad it's only for that socket that is embedded on the key and cannot work with other bits and sockets. Aha, found a picture. http://i50.tinypic.com/2i6i6nr.jpg |
Yeah, it's just a way to drive a 7mm hex key with the typical "peanut-butter wrench" used on regular crank bolts. I give them style points... simply making a long 7mm hex key, or (even more lowbrow) a 3/8"-drive socket with a 7mm hex bit would've been much too mundane.
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Originally Posted by onespeedbiker
(Post 14577168)
Okay, I know what it is but it is a bit obscure and is the combination of 3 tools for a specific purpose; anyone from New York is not allowed to answer :p
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=266046 An allen key, that doodad for getting stones out of horses' hooves, and an American flag by the looks of it. |
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Originally Posted by mechBgon
(Post 14580508)
Yeah, it's just a way to drive a 7mm hex key with the typical "peanut-butter wrench" used on regular crank bolts. I give them style points... simply making a long 7mm hex key, or (even more lowbrow) a 3/8"-drive socket with a 7mm hex bit would've been much too mundane.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=266204 |
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
(Post 14579878)
I've seen those. 30ish years ago when I was a truck owner/operator, I had a wrench that was specially made for the old, (now thankfully) obsolete stud piloted wheel system. It had an outer tube with a socket on the end to fit the outer nut, a shaft with a square wrench on the end to fit the inner nut fit down through the tube. A gear on the end of the inner wrench engaged a counter gear. the counter gear was then turned with the handle to rotate the outer nut off or on while holding the inner nut in place.
Aha, found a picture. http://i50.tinypic.com/2i6i6nr.jpg More like: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~coromal/M...l/DSC_6215.JPG http://www.globalminingproducts.com/...lashholder.jpg http://www.tradevv.com/chinasupplier...ug-Wrench.html http://www.ameintl.net/product-detai...product_id=286 http://www.12vautotech.com/ezlug.html Cool toys, anyway. As for the tool in cause, a 3/8" drive or 1/2" drive socket set would suffice for removing 7mm inbus (allen) bolts. I tend to use this type of inbus wrenches as I have them and use them from bikes to cars to trucks and so on, but a good set of bits and wrenches are pretty steep and overkill for a bike. |
With my C-Record cranks, I just put a box end wrench on the allen wrench as a cheater bar.
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that 2 piece <C> crank joins in the center, have to tighten the halves together some how.
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Originally Posted by onespeedbiker
(Post 14581241)
The final issue were the retention rings had left hand threads, which meant if the self-extracting bolts failed, or the rings were lost, you had to buy a special left handed crank extractor to remove the crank arms. Being a tool nut I have most of these tools and no none are for sale.:lol:
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=266204 ... ... ...a Schwinn kickstand tool AND the solid-unobtainium Schwinn Headset Wrench :eek: among my more interesting/unique tools. |
I applaud Campagnolo for inventing the most efficient tool in the history of cycling: the money-extractor tool.
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
(Post 14587578)
I applaud Campagnolo for inventing the most efficient tool in the history of cycling: the money-extractor tool.
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
(Post 14587578)
I applaud Campagnolo for inventing the most efficient tool in the history of cycling: the money-extractor tool.
Originally Posted by HillRider
(Post 14587807)
Boy, do you have this right! Who else could get almost $200 for a chain tool!
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
(Post 14587821)
Goes with the $300 cork puller.
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