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Originally Posted by THE ARS
(Post 14718735)
Enough whining, dude.
You want cush, here you go: http://intensecycles.com/wp-content/...12-UZZI-rt.jpg |
Originally Posted by THE ARS
(Post 14718766)
Where's your shop, by the way?
Sounds like you should have some AACA or OE Gold winners. Post them. Tom |
Try replacing them with valve springs from a 350 Chevy. They are available in various tensions and should be able to replace your seat springs, with enough machine work.
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Well, at least this board is a lot like others I'm on. People just want to hit that keyboard just to hit it. Even if it has little to do with the OP issues. Thanks for NOTHING! I would NEVER treat my customers that way. So, since I'm in "your" house....I can only relate myself to being "your" customer. I'm on a lot of hot rod type boards and go out of my way to help others. You guys trying to help me? Not so much. Seems you'd rather criticize or suggest things that far from apply. Thanks for the lesson. I know better than to ask advice here ever again. If I forget...let me have it....AGAIN
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Originally Posted by THE ARS
(Post 14719259)
I'm talking restorations.
My bad, I got the impression that's what you were doing. And, Jocko? A bike is not an 18 wheeler. The seat is not suspension. Buy what I posted if you can't take those rough sidewalks you run into. Tom |
Measure the k factor of the springs you have, and replace them with ones that have a lower k factor. Mcmaster-Carr has compression springs and they specify the k factor on the spec sheet, so order the length you need and the k factor. k factor is the stiffness, of course. k is like how many pounds does it take for the spring to deflect one inch.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#compression-springs/=j94qaf Also consider preload. Are existing ones set up with a preload or not? Even if existing ones are not, when using weaker ones you may want to consider incorporating a preload |
I am so confused by the OP. I just don't think he understands what the springs are supposed to do in a seat. The springs are nothing at all like the springs in a car's suspension. They are not there to make the ride cushy or fluffy, not their intended purpose so there isn't anything to fix.
So you can't fix a seat to make it a suspension seat, there really isn't such a thing. If you really want a bike to be cushy, you will need to put some sort of suspension on the bike which probably means a suspension seat post (best idea) and maybe front shocks. As far as I can tell, the springs in most seats are there to absorb severe shocks, like when you fall off of a pot hole or hit a curb or something like that. Heck, I am 380 pounds and have found them to be useless and removed them and put normal "skinny guy" seats on my bike and don't notice any less cushy of a ride. |
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I didn't think you'd make such a big deal to see my cars. Here's a couple. I don't know what it proves.....but you asked. My Vette was on the cover of Hot Rod a few yrs ago.....but I still don't understand why you need to see my cars in order to answer my question. Yeah, I know..you're gonna bit*ch about the whitewall tires...further derailing my thread. As far as the others that don't understand....I guess you never will. Read all my posts. If you still don't understand what I'm trying to do, oh well. I can't spell it out any better. I'm trying to CHANGE something. Has ANYONE here ever wanted to CHANGE something to better suit themselves?
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Originally Posted by bobotech
(Post 14720088)
So you can't fix a seat to make it a suspension seat, there really isn't such a thing. |
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Street Racer,
You may not appreciate that the question that you're asking here is somewhat...um...unorthodox. Many of us have ridden bikes for 40+ years. All sorts of bikes, from banana seat ape-hanger street bikes to full loaded touring rigs; carbon racing bikes to full suspension all terrain mountain bikes. Some with full or partial suspension - others with minimal weight and not designed for plushness in any way. All of this to say that I've never come across another rider who wanted to specifically modify a saddle to tune its springs to give isolation from the road. I've just not come across that. I suspect that many of the posters in this thread haven't either. So our answers - attempting to be helpful (maybe a bit condescendingly) wound up sounding obtuse and irrelevant to you. I gues that we're trying to tell you "it's not done that way", but that's not what you want to hear. Hey - you probably have a pretty thick skin. Just blow off the responses that don't help, and accept the ones that try. You'll figure something out if you apply your skills and effort. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
(Post 14720723)
Street Racer,
You may not appreciate that the question that you're asking here is somewhat...um...unorthodox. Many of us have ridden bikes for 40+ years. All sorts of bikes, from banana seat ape-hanger street bikes to full loaded touring rigs; carbon racing bikes to full suspension all terrain mountain bikes. Some with full or partial suspension - others with minimal weight and not designed for plushness in any way. All of this to say that I've never come across another rider who wanted to specifically modify a saddle to tune its springs to give isolation from the road. I've just not come across that. I suspect that many of the posters in this thread haven't either. So our answers - attempting to be helpful (maybe a bit condescendingly) wound up sounding obtuse and irrelevant to you. I gues that we're trying to tell you "it's not done that way", but that's not what you want to hear. Hey - you probably have a pretty thick skin. Just blow off the responses that don't help, and accept the ones that try. You'll figure something out if you apply your skills and effort. Good luck. |
Hey, this is the Internet. When you ask a question, people will examine it from all angles to try to address it. You might not like all the answers you get.
Get your loving at home. |
Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 14721483)
Hey, this is the Internet. When you ask a question, people will examine it from all angles to try to address it. You might not like all the answers you get.
Get your loving at home. |
Originally Posted by Street Racer
(Post 14721624)
I don't know how many replies you read, but there sure weren't much for actual answers. More like criticism, and "you can't do that" type of negativity...............Heck, read your own reply. Just a bunch of BULLSH*T from guys too antzy to just get their 2 cents in, whether or not it's helpful. I thought my question was pretty valid.
Your problem is that you gave no credit, no recognition, to those who tried to help, and only lashed out at the people trying to steer your thinking. How in the world is that going to curry favor with anyone? |
Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 14717408)
At least for me, "fix" implies that the device is not working as designed. When you bore out an engine block to take larger pistons, that's not "fixing" it but "modifying" it. ;)
I can't see your picture very well -- what model of saddle are you working with? |
Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 14721762)
Just for fairness, I re-read the thread, and there were some helpful suggestions amongst the attempts to explain to you how a sprung saddle is supposed to work.
Your problem is that you gave no credit, no recognition, to those who tried to help, and only lashed out at the people trying to steer your thinking. How in the world is that going to curry favor with anyone? |
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