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Old 11-09-12, 05:53 PM
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Chain whip question

Hi all,

I have been slowly learning a little bit about bike mechanics and buying tools as the need arises. I'm getting interested in removing and cleaning the cogs on my bike, which looks to be a fairly straight-forward job, judging from some of the stuff I've read about it.

So my question is about chain whips, and also lockring tools. My road bike has nine cogs. My guinea pig bike, on which I practice most of my initial, diabolical experiments, has six. My wife's mountain bike has seven.

I haven't measured, but I'm guessing the width of each bike's chain is different. Would one chain whip fit each chain, or must one have a chain whip that matches one's chain?

Also, do lockrings tend to be universal, or are there different types of those?

My guinea pig bike is an old Peugeot roadster my neighbor gave me when she moved. I don't know how old it is, but it sure ain't new.
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Old 11-09-12, 06:11 PM
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9 speed = cassette, 6 speed = freewheel (unless ultraglide or suntour cassettes), 7 speed could be either cassette or freewheel, see here for how to work on them https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...ewheel-service
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Old 11-09-12, 06:28 PM
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I think most lockrings are 'similar' but of course nothing in the world of bikes is 'universal'. A chain whip only has to securely engage a cog so you can apply force - it doesn't have to match the drive chain of the bike.
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You're right that there are several chain widths, but a regular chain whip will use a 3/32" chain that will fit anything on a derailleur bike.
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There's a chance that your poor experiment bike has a freewheel
rather than a freehub. If so, the removal procedure is different.

Maybe you already know this, so I won't bore you.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
There's a chance that your poor experiment bike has a freewheel
rather than a freehub. If so, the removal procedure is different.

Maybe you already know this, so I won't bore you.
Nope, I sure don't. What's the dif, and how do I tell the dif?
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Originally Posted by John Kelin View Post
Nope, I sure don't. What's the dif, and how do I tell the dif?
Go to the link in #2, and select the Cassette and Freewheel Removal option.

Better pictures than I could give you.
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Originally Posted by jimc101 View Post
9 speed = cassette, 6 speed = freewheel (unless ultraglide or suntour cassettes), 7 speed could be either cassette or freewheel
I don't believe Shimano made anything called UltraGlide, but they did have 6 speed cassettes that were UG, or UniGlide®.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
There's a chance that your poor experiment bike has a freewheel
rather than a freehub. If so, the removal procedure is different.

Maybe you already know this, so I won't bore you.
Also if it's six speed road bike there's a very good chance it has a early cassette which use two chain whips.
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Originally Posted by onespeedbiker View Post
I don't believe Shimano made anything called UltraGlide
They do now, it's basically Hyperglide only the backs of the sprockets are contoured as well. It's only available in 7-speed, as far as I know.

At least that's what I was told last time I went into a bike shop looking for 7-speed cassettes.
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and how do I tell the dif?
send a picture and we can see , or go to a bike shop and ask.
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Originally Posted by Airburst View Post
They do now, it's basically Hyperglide only the backs of the sprockets are contoured as well. It's only available in 7-speed, as far as I know.

At least that's what I was told last time I went into a bike shop looking for 7-speed cassettes.
I believe that Ultraglide is a misnomer. If one searches Ultra-Glide/Ultraglide on Google, you will see it is always exclusive of Uni-Glide. Further, many times the Ultraglide name is followed by a parenthetical (UG); since Shimano uses UG for Uni-Glide, I believe when it was released many thought UG stood for Ultraglide and through common usage the name stuck.

I believe this also shows that just because one wears a Park Tools apron, does not make them more knowledgeable than before they put it on.

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