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11 Speed Chain Maintenace
After riding about 200 mile on my"new" built up Serotta with campy it is time for some chain maintenance. I really prefer to remove the chain and clean it in mineral spirits then re-install and lube. But this will ot be practical with the Campy 11 speed chain.
SO what are you guys doing for 11 speed chain maintenance? |
Get a KMC 11s master link.
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Depending on your riding style and terrain and weather, you might be able to flush dirt out with frequent lubrication. I've had pretty good luck using ATF. My car mechanic tells me that ATF is designed to hold particles in suspension, i.e. away from solid surfaces.
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Unless money is no object, don't even think of using a new Campy connector for each removal/ installation and absolutely don't reuse the same pin. The KMC master link referred to by Shimagnolo is one viable option or, better yet, clean the chain without removing it.
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Has anyone had any experience with using a KMC Master link with a Campy 11 speed chain?
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This is crazy stuff. All this extra care to have a few more gears? I think I'll stick with 8-speed and similar. The new stuff is so cantankerous.
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Remove the original joining pin and the other pin on the same pair of outer plates. Replace with KMC or IRD master link. Either one will work fine.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 14944757)
This is crazy stuff. All this extra care to have a few more gears? I think I'll stick with 8-speed and similar. The new stuff is so cantankerous.
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Originally Posted by Tandem Tom
(Post 14944740)
Has anyone had any experience with using a KMC Master link with a Campy 11 speed chain?
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It's a road bike so the chain shouldn't need that much service. Dry wipe it to remove as much loose stuff as possible, then lube it with whatever you prefer. Be aware that many of the after market lubes aren't nearly as good as what Campy uses, so you might want to wait a bit longer before using a solvent laden oil.
If you have an ultrasonic cleaner you can thoroughly wash the chain while it' still on the bike. Slip it off the cranks, and let it dangle from the chainstay and wash half the chain. Then advance it and wash the other half. Let it dry completely before oiling it. |
Park's on the chain cleaner devise, and their cleaning fluid; is convenient,
to use frequently.. a good shop tool.. myself , I use an IGH and use the 8 speed [and less] chain.. For Derailleurs, for myself, I got off the trend bandwagon at 7. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 14944757)
This is crazy stuff. All this extra care to have a few more gears? I think I'll stick with 8-speed and similar. The new stuff is so cantankerous.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 14944757)
This is crazy stuff. All this extra care to have a few more gears? I think I'll stick with 8-speed and similar. The new stuff is so cantankerous.
7-speed indexing downtube shifters 7-speed brifters 8-speed brifters 9-speed brifters 10-speed brifters From 7-speed on it was all Shimano and the 10-speed stuff is both Shimano and Campy. Along the way my rain bike saw 8-speed barends, Kelly Take-Offs and the Retroshifts now on it. The upshot of all of this is that each step "up" was no more difficult to install or adjust then the one before it and no more trouble prone or unreliable. I may never get to 11-speed because of the cost and, as you say, at some point, more gears serve no purpose but 10-speed has been just fine. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 14944757)
This is crazy stuff. All this extra care to have a few more gears? I think I'll stick with 8-speed and similar. The new stuff is so cantankerous.
Whether you find that added gearing options is worth the extra dough or not depends on where you live and how you ride. If you live in the plains or along the east coast and ride in flat to lightly rolling terrain 7s or 8s is fine. OTOH if you ride long distances on the road, and/or live in very hilly areas, you'll appreciate every added gearing option. In any case saying "I'll stick with 8s" is fine, but you may not have any choice in the matter. Eventually parts wear out and top quality 8s is no longer being made. I'm currently riding 7s freewheels on my commuter, and concerned about my future options. Some time soon my rear rim will wear through, and I'll need to decide whether to rebuild on the same hubs, or do an unnecessary and expensive "upgrade" to cassette system with 8s or 9s. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 14944595)
Depending on your riding style and terrain and weather, you might be able to flush dirt out with frequent lubrication. I've had pretty good luck using ATF. My car mechanic tells me that ATF is designed to hold particles in suspension, i.e. away from solid surfaces.
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Brake fluid may damage paint, but ATF is just an oil that shouldn't bother paint. There's nothing similar about the two.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
(Post 14963603)
In any case saying "I'll stick with 8s" is fine, but you may not have any choice in the matter. Eventually parts wear out and top quality 8s is no longer being made. I'm currently riding 7s freewheels on my commuter, and concerned about my future options. Some time soon my rear rim will wear through, and I'll need to decide whether to rebuild on the same hubs, or do an unnecessary and expensive "upgrade" to cassette system with 8s or 9s.
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Is this about how to take care of an 11 speed chain or a debate on if 11 is too many gears to have? I have had a 11 speed chain since early in the year. Have 3300 miles on it and have not taken it off the bicycle yet. I lube it with a high quality lube and wipe the side plates dry. By wiping the side plates dry I remove any grime or junk. This is the same technique I have used since I started with 5 speeds years ago. For me there is no need to break the chain down.
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Amen brother!
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Originally Posted by Tandem Tom
(Post 14944504)
After riding about 200 mile on my"new" built up Serotta with campy it is time for some chain maintenance. I really prefer to remove the chain and clean it in mineral spirits then re-install and lube. But this will ot be practical with the Campy 11 speed chain.
SO what are you guys doing for 11 speed chain maintenance? http://draco.nac.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/8d.2.html |
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