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cny-bikeman 12-31-12 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by cwedgwood50 (Post 15097614)
cny-bikeman

Let's break this down;

1. I posted in haste..This was not as specific as it could have been...Despite the failings of my description...

2. ...Your posts seem to be implying that I do not accept that I should read anything, but that could not be further from the truth. I just feel that the act of actually doing will re-enforce my learning in what is largely a practical skill.

3... in part what I seem to be getting is an elitist attitude that there is no way that I could even begin to learn and should just give up now, which is only serving to dampen my enthusiasm.

1. Again in my earlier post I questioned your readiness ("You need to study a lot more about each step in the process.") and used the terminology as merely one indicator.

2. I did not imply anything - I do not beat around the bush - nor do I use manipulation of other people's words or intuit their intent. I quoted and questioned your own rather sarcastic words that did indeed imply that I or others were overtly discouraging you.

3. Yet another example of hyperbolic distortion. I already pointed out that all of us here make mistakes - and I make a point to acknowledge mine and to thank the person who corrects it. I spent over 10 years at a bike co-op, where I both trained mechanics and ran repair clinics for bicyclists. I taught people from as young as 12 years old up to well into their 60's how to work on bikes. We had no Internet, few references or fancy tools. I enjoyed teaching others and seeing them able to be more independent about maintaining their own or other people's bikes, no matter what their starting point.

The one biggest variable in how and what people could learn was the willingness and the ability to approach a task in a thoughtful, logical manner, followed closely by openness to feedback.

I'll say it outright - you absolutely can learn to work on your own bike, and I would never advise you to give up. But I'll also say that my gut tells me there is a piece you are missing in your approach.

cwedgwood50 12-31-12 08:40 AM

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I managed to take some pictures of the bike, but they haven't come out that well. I have some problems with the camera. I've posted them just in case they are of any help, and at least you can see the bike.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=291036

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=291037

cwedgwood50 12-31-12 09:07 AM

I don't want to argue.
I just want to fix my bike.

Carbonfiberboy 12-31-12 10:20 AM

Well, cool. You got your Park TM-1 at least ordered? You got your freewheel tool or at least ordered? You've googled "bicycle wheel building"? Printed out the first two articles? You'll need some wheel bearing grease. Cone wrenches. I use mineral spirits for a cleaning solvent, works and not too stinky. An Allen wrench set. Set of metric ignition wrenches.

Might need: Crank puller. Pedal wrench or might get by with a Crescent wrench. Probably some Aero-Kroil (google).

Get after it! Yes, you'll spend some money on tools, but if you want to monkey around with bikes, it's an investment in lowered future costs. Besides, it's fun to work on bikes.

SortaGrey 12-31-12 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy (Post 15103594)
Well, cool. You got your Park TM-1 at least ordered? You got your freewheel tool or at least ordered? You've googled "bicycle wheel building"? Printed out the first two articles? You'll need some wheel bearing grease. Cone wrenches. I use mineral spirits for a cleaning solvent, works and not too stinky. An Allen wrench set. Set of metric ignition wrenches.

Might need: Crank puller. Pedal wrench or might get by with a Crescent wrench. Probably some Aero-Kroil (google).

Get after it! Yes, you'll spend some money on tools, but if you want to monkey around with bikes, it's an investment in lowered future costs. Besides, it's fun to work on bikes.

:thumb:


Originally Posted by cwedgwood50 (Post 15103368)
I don't want to argue.
I just want to fix my bike.

:thumb:

Just ignore the anal's.. the keyboard queens. Just.. don't bother.

DO enjoy this learning experience. ;)

cwedgwood50 12-31-12 12:22 PM

Thanks guys.

I found a pretty good video here too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp1u5YKMRFQ

How do I identify the best removal tool to use? Are there some that work on multiple different freewheels types, like a multi-freewheel remover?

Also, The "dork-disc" is quite smashed up, can I just put a new replacement on if I was able to rebuild the wheel?

FBinNY 12-31-12 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by cwedgwood50 (Post 15103970)
How do I identify the best removal tool to use? Are there some that work on multiple different freewheels types, like a multi-freewheel remover?

Also, The "dork-disc" is quite smashed up, can I just put a new replacement on if I was able to rebuild the wheel?

Freewheel removers are specific to the brand (and model) of the freewheel. If you're not sure bring the wheel to the shop and let them sell you the right one.

And you can buy a new spoke protector disc, though the term dork disc is usually used only by those who don't use one.

cny-bikeman 12-31-12 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Airburst (Post 15101226)
I use the axle nut or quick-release skewer to hold the tool in whenever I'm pulling a freewheel that takes one of the pronged tools. Be sure to loosen it off once you've broken the freewheel loose, because if you keep unscrewing it, you'll break something, as you're effectively tightening the freewheel and tool into the axle nut.

Yes, absolutely necessary to secure the pronged tools with skewer or nut until it breaks free. Depending on hand pressure to keep the tool engaged is pretty much futile.

3alarmer 12-31-12 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by cwedgwood50 (Post 15103368)
I don't want to argue.
I just want to fix my bike.


well biked 12-31-12 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by davidad (Post 15097826)
Alot of folks here will pee on your feet.

Quote of the day.

SortaGrey 01-02-13 07:56 AM

http://www.bikeforums.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by davidad http://www.bikeforums.net/images/but...post-right.png
Alot of folks here will pee on your feet.


Originally Posted by well biked (Post 15105344)
Quote of the day.

But... how many of those can get the pressure high enough NOT to completely soak themselves......


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