Upside down or right side up?
Occasionally I will stop to help bike riders broke down on the road. While mainly flat tires I also see broken and sucked chains and derailleur cable problems. What seems to almost be a trend is many of these cyclist turn their bikes upside down to try and find out what's wrong. If they ask for help the first thing I do is right the bike mainly because I can't mount a rear tire on an upside down bike. Is it just me, or is there a correlation between those that don't know how to work on or fix their bikes and those that turn it upside down on the road?
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Originally Posted by onespeedbiker
(Post 15131725)
. . . Is it just me, or is there a correlation between those that don't know how to work on or fix their bikes and those that turn it upside down on the road?
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For almost a century folks turned bikes upside down to work on them. The handlebar and seat made a perfect tripod.
Drop bars broke most of the habit because doing so damaged the brake cables where they left the lever. In the sixties and seventies, Cable housings folded at the top of the lever were about as common as white bread. Nowadays, with aero brake levers, there's no longer a reason not to flip a bike over when working in the field. It's not my cup of tea, but there's no problem either. |
Upside down on road fix, repair stand at home.
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you could often invert a old school road bike on a picnic table for emergency field repairs such that the handlebars were supported but the brake cables were over the edge. handy for readjusting the derailleur after a cable repair, truing a dinged wheel, etc.
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Personally, for simple things like a dropped chain, adjusting a DR, or removing/replacing a wheel for a flat I find no advantage in turning the bike upside down. Generally, to do so I'd have to remove my bike computer and water bottles, stuff would drop out of my open seatbag...
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For a front wheel flat (rare) I'll stand the bike upright on the fork dropouts after I remove the wheel. For a rear flat, I remove the wheel with the bike upright and lay it down on the non-drive side while I change the tube and then hold it upright while reinstalling the rear wheel. I don't want to turn the bike upside down and scuff up the saddle and brifters.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
(Post 15133231)
For a front wheel flat (rare) I'll stand the bike upright on the fork dropouts after I remove the wheel. For a rear flat, I remove the wheel with the bike upright and lay it down on the non-drive side while I change the tube and then hold it upright while reinstalling the rear wheel. I don't want to turn the bike upside down and scuff up the saddle and brifters.
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I find it much easier to remove and replace a rear wheel on the road when the bike is upside down. I have a work stand at home, but on the road having the bike upside down makes life easier. I put something under the saddle (tool roll or saddlebag) and levers (gloves or whatever else I have) to avoid marks.
So to answer your question:
Originally Posted by onespeedbiker
(Post 15131725)
s it just me, or is there a correlation between those that don't know how to work on or fix their bikes and those that turn it upside down on the road?
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got used to coping with a loaded touring bike, & doing wheel removals laying the load down,
trying to remember to loosen brake and hub QR , first.. |
Originally Posted by onespeedbiker
(Post 15131725)
Occasionally I will stop to help bike riders broke down on the road. While mainly flat tires I also see broken and sucked chains and derailleur cable problems. What seems to almost be a trend is many of these cyclist turn their bikes upside down to try and find out what's wrong. If they ask for help the first thing I do is right the bike mainly because I can't mount a rear tire on an upside down bike. Is it just me, or is there a correlation between those that don't know how to work on or fix their bikes and those that turn it upside down on the road?
Why not?? OP: "Is it just me,"? Probably...why do you care how someone plops down their bike...? |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15133438)
got used to coping with a loaded touring bike, & doing wheel removals laying the load down,
trying to remember to loosen brake and hub QR , first.. |
Originally Posted by ksisler
(Post 15133919)
OP: "mainly because I can't mount a rear tire on an upside down bike"
Why not??
Originally Posted by ksisler
(Post 15133919)
OP: "Is it just me,"?
Probably...why do you care how someone plops down their bike...? |
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Originally Posted by ksisler
(Post 15133946)
Fietsbob; As almost always, finding I agree with your line of thinking. But I have no idea if the OP was actually constantly finding broken loaded touring bikers along side of the road and he just forgot to mention it... We should ask the Shadow to get on this Forum as the Shadow always knows...
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=292522 |
Im living on the Pac Coast Route now , the touring cyclists went through the Case-lot of ODOT free, coast route maps,
but of that 500 or so, only a few per day need the services of the LBS.. |
Originally Posted by onespeedbiker
(Post 15134186)
I have never found a touring bike rider broken down, but I am often asked directions; getting from Santa Cruz/ Watsonville to Monterey can be tricky.
used to be great Pacific Coast Bike Route signage all on that route, I rode the monterey->scruz->monterey route a bunch of times in the 70s/80s. sadly, the signs are largely damaged and gone, and haven't been replaced. |
Whatever works. I happen to rarely work on bikes upside-down. If it's a drive train problem I typically turn the bars to the side and then put the bike nose down so the rear wheel is free and the drive train is at a good height.
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The Shimano doc on my hydraulic disk brakes advises that you should not turn the bike upside down or on its side as this can cause the air bubble in the reservoir to travel down into the calipers and cause the bike to lose braking or at least braking force.
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Nowadays, with aero brake levers, there's no longer a reason not to flip a bike over when working in the field. It's not my cup of tea, but there's no problem either. |
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