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Telly 04-14-13 10:18 AM

A question concerning pedals
 
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Hello everyone,

I just got a pair of used toe clip pedals and would like to ask what the triangular metal plate is used for?
And if this plate is for some kind of SPD type catch, is there a way to use it with regular shoes?

Thanks!

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=310721

fietsbob 04-14-13 10:55 AM

Nah its just clamping the plastic toe clip, length adjustment.. Cant see why you cant use regular shoes,
just the regular caveat on shoe soles being smooth enough to slide in..

FBinNY 04-14-13 11:25 AM

The raised tab seems like it's made as some kind of a guide that must mate to some specific shoe. If it isn't doing anything, you're best bet is to file or grind it off so you have a flat surface for your shoes.

woodcraft 04-14-13 12:19 PM

No, the raised part makes the shoe sit flat and provides clearance for the toe clip and for old-school nail on cleats that hook on the rear rail.

It's part of the pedal surface, but not part of a cleat mechanism.

Telly 04-14-13 01:54 PM

I too was worried that the raised edges would interfere with normal shoes, preferably Stan Smiths which I use for cycling.

I actually got these because I wanted to try out using pedal clips and if in fact I do and can get used to using them, I'll purchase a better quality set since although these are Wellgo's, except for the axles, they're made entirely out of plastic.

FBinNY 04-14-13 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Telly (Post 15509603)
I too was worried that the raised edges would interfere with normal shoes, preferably Stan Smiths which I use for cycling.

I actually got these because I wanted to try out using pedal clips and if in fact I do and can get used to using them, I'll purchase a better quality set since although these are Wellgo's, except for the axles, they're made entirely out of plastic.

Use them as they are, and if the raised lips are in the way or cut into your soles, you can file them down slightly as needed. Don't be in too much of a rush to replace these if they work. Pedal quality is mostly about durability, strength & weight. Though you can feel very poor bearing quality, anything decent will perform so close to the best that the difference won't be noticeable.

If these hold up well run them until they die, at which time you can buy better toe clip pedals, or try going clipless. IMO toe clip pedals are somewhat better suited for commuting since you use regular shoes and can walk and do errands along the way. Some also have good luck using mtn pedals and shoes, many of which have the cleat pocketed below the sole and so are also good for walking.

Jeff Wills 04-14-13 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by FBinNY (Post 15509183)
The raised tab seems like it's made as some kind of a guide that must mate to some specific shoe. If it isn't doing anything, you're best bet is to file or grind it off so you have a flat surface for your shoes.

The raised guide hooked up with a special Shimano cleat that bolted to a Look-pattern shoe. The cleat had "wings" that slid underneath the hooks on the plate. With a cinched-down toe strap it was near impossible to get the shoe to release from the pedal.

FBinNY 04-14-13 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff Wills (Post 15509919)
The raised guide hooked up with a special Shimano cleat that bolted to a Look-pattern shoe. The cleat had "wings" that slid underneath the hooks on the plate. With a cinched-down toe strap it was near impossible to get the shoe to release from the pedal.

So I thought, though not specifically which cleat it mated with. However someone "corrected" me, and I chose to let it go. I figured Telly could decide for himself if he preferred filing the tabs down.

woodcraft 04-14-13 04:18 PM

I referred to some Shimano AX pedals- same triangular plate, but w/out the ability to hook anything under the trailing edge.

I stand corrected.

Telly 04-15-13 12:45 AM

Thanks for all the info and help!
I'll try them out this weekend and if the raised lips of the metal plate are obstructing, I'll just remove the plates and add washers in their place (I always prefer to save peculiar parts because you never know when you might need them!).

Continuity 04-15-13 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Telly (Post 15509603)
...normal shoes, preferably Stan Smiths which I use for cycling.

? - They don't look that comfy for cycling in...

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=310895
;)

Telly 04-15-13 03:19 AM

Considering that I call my bike Klaus
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._Klaus_v1F.jpg


of course I'll name the following Stan!
http://photos-chaussures.spartoo.com...6874_350_A.jpg


Just have to find something to name Roger...
https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profil...rican_Dad_.jpg

FBinNY 04-15-13 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Telly (Post 15511312)
Thanks for all the info and help!
I'll try them out this weekend and if the raised lips of the metal plate are obstructing, I'll just remove the plates and add washers in their place (I always prefer to save peculiar parts because you never know when you might need them!).

You won't ever need these plates since the shoes they're made for don't exist anymore. OTOH- the single plate (without the raised lip) will make a stronger support for the screws, and for a smoother entry surface for your sole. Don't sacrifice some utility on these pedals saving parts for some future use that will never happen.

Telly 04-15-13 08:20 AM

You're right of course, unfortunately I'm a bit of a hoarder and tend to stash things and then forget about them. I'll take an angle grinder to the plates or take them to a friend who can lower the lip... if needed!

jsharr 04-15-13 08:27 AM

There are, or were specific cleats for those old Shimano 600 pedals back in the day.

http://www.businesscycles.com/tped-shim.htm

Sixty Fiver 04-15-13 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Telly (Post 15511424)

of course I'll name the following Stan!
http://photos-chaussures.spartoo.com...6874_350_A.jpg

These (the classic leather version) has always been one of my favourite casual / everyday shoes for riding with clips and straps.

Telly 04-15-13 08:46 AM

I own three pairs (leather, two white and one black) and when broken-in, feel like an extension of my foot. Don't think i'll ever find anything more comfortable than these!

Sixty Fiver 04-15-13 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Telly (Post 15512209)
I own three pairs (leather, two white and one black) and when broken-in, feel like an extension of my foot. Don't think i'll ever find anything more comfortable than these!

They have been making this shoe for well over 40 years, have been wearing them since I was a kid although for walking I now wear barefoot shoes as it is better for my back... I can't abide any kind of heel lift for any period of time.

For cycling they are great, the sole is relatively stiff and transfers power and if you are using clips and straps the design is ideal... the leather also breathes quite well.

jsharr 04-15-13 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Telly (Post 15511424)
Considering that I call my bike Klaus
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._Klaus_v1F.jpg


of course I'll name the following Stan!
http://photos-chaussures.spartoo.com...6874_350_A.jpg


Just have to find something to name Roger...
https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profil...rican_Dad_.jpg

Name your saddle Roger...

Telly 04-15-13 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by jsharr (Post 15512270)
Name your saddle Roger...

Nah... too kinky :p

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5070a128/t...lon-sm-041/600

woodcraft 04-15-13 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by jsharr (Post 15512116)
There are, or were specific cleats for those old Shimano 600 pedals back in the day.

http://www.businesscycles.com/tped-shim.htm


Double corrected!!

FBinNY 04-15-13 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by woodcraft (Post 15512424)
Double corrected!!

Don't sweat it. Show me someone who's never posted an error on this forum and I'll show you a liar. (or maybe John D. Thompson)

jsharr 04-15-13 10:26 AM

I am usually wrong, and have learned much from most if not all of the people in the "thank you" thread. The only reason I am partially right here is that I am old and have not forgotten those pedals yet.

woodcraft 04-16-13 09:26 AM

Thanks for the kind words.


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