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Kludge Koncept
Made an old Shimano bell crank shifted 3 speed work by forcing the hub into a lower gear
on a minimum to zero expenditure repair, forcing a piece of plastic under the bellcrank to down shift it.. later thought screwing an acorn nut over the push rod and pushing the rod in that way might work too. still a 1 speed out of 3 but might be the .75 gear or the 1, rather than the 4/3rds broken cable gear.. |
Sturmey's easier; thread in a spoke in place of the indicator rod and bend it ;)
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Yea but... this was a Shimano hub. push in is the opposite of pull out.
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On the road, forced shifting on a Shimano 3-speed (pushrod version) with a broken cable is easy and no spare parts need be carried to do the job.
Remove cable and bell crank. Scout around for a pebble 1/4" diameter or so. Drop pebble into bellcrank and screw back on the exle until the pebble pushes the rod to the desired depth. |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15558728)
Yea but... this was a Shimano hub. push in is the opposite of pull out.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15558234)
Made an old Shimano bell crank shifted 3 speed work by forcing the hub into a lower gear
on a minimum to zero expenditure repair, forcing a piece of plastic under the bellcrank to down shift it.. later thought screwing an acorn nut over the push rod and pushing the rod in that way might work too. still a 1 speed out of 3 but might be the .75 gear or the 1, rather than the 4/3rds broken cable gear.. Unless you have one with a left side bell crank maybe? I've seen at least one like that. |
NB: 'bell crank' is like a cantilever L . pull on one side of the pivot and it pushes in on the other..
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15562189)
NB: 'bell crank' is like a cantilever L . pull on one side of the pivot and it pushes in on the other..
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Ah , but it did.. that is All. ... over and Out..
[for the 130 people who looked at his thread] |
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
(Post 15562199)
Yeah, I know how they work. Still trying to get my head around how you push it to a lower gear when pushing on the rod results in a higher gear.
Here's a drawing of an old 333 hub (the ones I vaguely remember) and if you look closely, it seems that the 1st gear on the lever is the tight cable position as with SA of that era, so the hub is a default high, and you'd need to push the rod in as Fietsbob says to shift to low. |
Yea thats the one.. rather than 39 pushing on 40 , concept, was (acorn)
nut pushing the shaft, 40, directly.. customer wanted just make it work, no real investment.. [had Shimanos twist grip , cable rather proprietary so special order would be required.] the 'summer 2nd house at the beach' people, have different priorities. |
Originally Posted by FBinNY
(Post 15562664)
I defer to your expertise here haven't looked at these in eons, and don't remember either way, but it's possible that you and Fietsbob are looking at different hubs.
Here's a drawing of an old 333 hub (the ones I vaguely remember) and if you look closely, it seems that the 1st gear on the lever is the tight cable position as with SA of that era, so the hub is a default high, and you'd need to push the rod in as Fietsbob says to shift to low. But, one thing I should know by now, just when you think you've seen it all...... |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15562773)
Yea thats the one.. rather than 39 pushing on 40 , was a capped nut pushing the shaft, 40, directly..
customer wanted just make it work, no real investment.. [had Shimanos twist grip , cable rather proprietary so special order would be required.] |
I took a short piece of Bar end plug. crammed it in then Zip tied it on to stay there ..
. As long as the Boat gets back in, to tie up at the dock, it's a good repair. (rather than call the Coast Guard for a tow, .. or get on the orange Gumby suit ) |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 15562842)
I took a short piece of Bar end plug. crammed it in then Zip tied it on to stay there ..
. As long as the Boat gets back in, to tie up at the dock, it's a good repair. (rather than call the Coast Guard for a tow, .. or get on the orange Gumby suit ) |
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
(Post 15563029)
Can't tell ya how many times duct tape, vice grips, or zip ties have gotten me to a safe haven. ( Not necessarily on a bike either).
Once an owner, probably convinced I was a shoplifter or casing his joint for a robbery that night wouldn't let go, kept pressing me, so finally I got mad and asked what aisle Inspriration was in. That almost got me arrested, as he called the local cops, but it all worked out when I showed him the problem, and he knew who in town might help. |
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