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thegreatbelow 07-11-13 04:35 AM

How to tighten this headset?
 
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I haven't come across this type on a kids bike with three little indents in, what tool do I need?

Please note there is a top lock nut but I have lifted it out the way to show the threaded top race clearly, which is the unknown part to me!

I have tried tightening as much as possible by hand and then tightening down the lock nut with a headset wrench but there is still a fair amount of play in the headset so I'm obviously going to need a specific tool.

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dabac 07-11-13 04:43 AM

I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Headsets don't require massive amounts of preload.
May I suggest backing out the bearing and checking that you have enough threads left on the steerer?

If you have, and aren't too worried about marring the knurled surface, use a pipe wrench/vise grip to screw the race down and hold it while you tighten the locknut. If you are worried, you need to find a reasonably well fitting hook wrench instead.


If you haven't, well then you'll have to find someone to extend the threads on the steerer to cure the problem.

a77impala 07-11-13 05:09 AM

Are you sure the bearings are in there, top and bottom? Just asking!

cny-bikeman 07-11-13 05:36 AM

The knurled part is the top cone, the three-notched piece is a locknut. There generally should be a tabbed lockwasher between them that fits into a notch in the fork column threads. The angle of the pic does not allow me to see if there is a notch on that fork. If you tighten the knurled part down by hand and still have play then there's something wrong with how the bearings are set up - balls are too small (some of the kids bikes took 3/16" bearings instead of 5/32") or the bearing cages are reversed, or even one is missing.

Once you have confirmed that you can remove all play by tightening the top cone or corrected any problems that prevented doing so I would just dispense with the notched locknut. Substitute some plain washers to occupy the same thickness. Install the front wheel to make it easier to hold the fork in position (by placing your legs on each side of the wheel as you stand in front of the bike). Turn down the top cone by hand till it stops and then back off about 1/8 turn. Hold it in position with large vise grip or channelock pliers (pipe wrench is possible but would need to be attached in the counterclockwise position) and tighten the top locknut. Check to see if the fork turns smoothly with no fore-aft play. If not hold the cone in place while you loosen the locknut, readjust the cone and retighten.

It's possible to adjust using the notched locknut, but it will require being able to both hold the cone in position and firmly tighten the locknut. The hook spanner normally required to do that is a rare item, even in a longstanding, well equipped shop, and using a visegrip will be difficult when you are trying to hold onto the cone adjacent to it.

thegreatbelow 07-11-13 06:21 AM

Thanks for the replies, it turns out you are right and I was barking up the wrong tree slightly... the threads were very rusty so I just applied a little grease and found I had a good few more turns out of the locknut in order to remove the play!

ursle 07-11-13 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by thegreatbelow (Post 15838378)
Thanks for the replies, it turns out you are right and I was barking up the wrong tree slightly... the threads were very rusty so I just applied a little grease and found I had a good few more turns out of the locknut in order to remove the play!

Yes but did you visually inspect the bearings and races?

thegreatbelow 07-11-13 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by ursle (Post 15838398)
Yes but did you visually inspect the bearings and races?

Yes I did, gave them a little clean and re-grease. The races appeared to be fine.


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