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Old 07-17-13, 01:30 PM
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Clicking sound

Looking for some help narrowing down a clicking sound.

It's coming from the right pedal, on the down stroke. As soon as I stop putting pressure on the pedal I get the click. I could be 1/3 of the way on the down stroke or my foot extended all the way. The click happens when I let off. It happens regardless if I'm in or out of the seat or if I grab onto the handle bars or not. It also doesn't take a lot of pressure to get it to click, could be pedaling lightly and it still does it.

Tried swapping the right pedal with a spare, no fix. Re-torqued the stack bolts and crank bolts, no fix. (Haven't got around to checking the bottom bracket yet). I was thinking of the rear cassette or free hub in the back, but then the clicking would happen with the right or left pedal.

Any other ideas for a quick fix?

Thanks

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Old 07-17-13, 01:33 PM
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Quick fix....ear plugs

Real fix....crank set change
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Any play in the pedal?
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Rust or other contamination on mating surfaces can cause clicking. You may need to remove the crank arms, clean flats on spindle and arms and reassemble (no sense in doing just one side, same with the pedal. If that does not do it do the same with chainwheel bolts.
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The bike is only 7 or 8 months old, I don't think I could have worn out any components that quickly. I'll try to disassemble clean and reassembly, see what kind of results I get. Thanks for the help.
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The bike is only 7 or 8 months old, I don't think I could have worn out any components that quickly. I'll try to disassemble clean and reassembly, see what kind of results I get. Thanks for the help.
You could have a defective Component which would be covered by a warranty.
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Originally Posted by dragoscscc View Post
Looking for some help narrowing down a clicking sound.

It's coming from the right pedal, on the down stroke. As soon as I stop putting pressure on the pedal I get the click. I could be 1/3 of the way on the down stroke or my foot extended all the way. The click happens when I let off. It happens regardless if I'm in or out of the seat or if I grab onto the handle bars or not. It also doesn't take a lot of pressure to get it to click, could be pedaling lightly and it still does it.

Tried swapping the right pedal with a spare, no fix. Re-torqued the stack bolts and crank bolts, no fix. (Haven't got around to checking the bottom bracket yet). I was thinking of the rear cassette or free hub in the back, but then the clicking would happen with the right or left pedal.

Any other ideas for a quick fix?

Thanks

D
It could be your bottom bracket. Since you changed pedal and tight everything and it does not fix it, I feel it is not likely a pedal issue. It could be the bearing problem in the bottom bracket. Or maybe just not enough grease in the thread (if it is a threaded bottom bracket) or bearings. If you have ridden in the rain, this might be very possible.
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Old 07-20-13, 06:51 PM
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Thanks for all the help. Found a replacement BB-5700 to throw in there. Will take the chain rings off and clean them as well as the cranks. Unfortunately wont have time to mess with it until the end of next week.

Wish me luck,

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Toe clips and straps or clipless. If clipless, it could be in your cleat or shoe, and not in the pedal or bike. If clips and straps, could be a loose toe clip screw.

I have an old pair of plain rubber pedals that I can ride in loafers. These are my go-to diagnostic pedals because they eliminate all causes beyond the end of the crank.
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Hello all,

Replaced the BB with a new one, also took apart the chain rings and cleaned/re assembled. Quick ride around the block and the noise is gone. Won't get my hopes up, will wait till I have some time for a longer ride.

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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
Toe clips and straps or clipless. If clipless, it could be in your cleat or shoe, and not in the pedal or bike. If clips and straps, could be a loose toe clip screw.

I have an old pair of plain rubber pedals that I can ride in loafers. These are my go-to diagnostic pedals because they eliminate all causes beyond the end of the crank.
If your noise comes back, this--I had a similar issue recently and when I rode the bike in sneakers, the noise went away. Turned out to be the way the cleats mated to my shoe. I applied some lube to the juncture between the cleat and shoe and let the shoe sit upside-down for a couple of days to set in. Noise gone for good!

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The noise is back, yay!

The pedals are MKS pedals with toe straps. Did try swapping the right with another pedal (also with a strap) Maybe will try swapping both pedals and using a different pair of shoes. All out of ideas for now... just keep an eye on it, see if I can narrow it down some more.

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Old 07-30-13, 11:54 AM
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Fixed (2.0)

It was the pedal strap buckle making all the racket. The metal buckle banging around on another metal part. Taped it up with some foam tape and 60 miles later no noise. Now to find a more permanent solution...

Thanks for all the help,


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Have had my Giant Escape bike the shop twice (2-3 days each time) within a couple of weeks to fix the SAME drive train issue.

(Obviously they don't do a test ride before giving bikes back to the customer.)

There is a 'clicking' noise in the pedal area during the right side pedal downstroke. This first time they adjusted the front derailleur. The second time they said it was a bad "bottom bracket". Not a problem - Just replace it! So they did and $60+ later absolutely nothing has changed with the original issue.

Picked it up today and took a quick little 10 mile evening ride around the neighborhood to make sure the bike problem was fixed before a planned big ride tomorrow . . . It is not.

I don't mind paying to get it fixed (at least for things that I am not set-up to do myself) . . . But, FIX IT! (And maybe do a 50' test ride to make sure that you DID fix it!)

Not real happy with my LBS right now!
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You really should start your own thread. In this case the OP has resolved the issue, but otherwise it's difficult to see whose problem is being addressed. You need to either ask for the head mechanic or a good diagnostician at another shop to fix the issue. In 20 years of wrenching I was never at a shop where we could not fix a noise problem.

I would ask that you do at least one thing first. If you have clipless pedals put on regular shoes and see if the click occurs. If not then it's the pedal-shoe interface or the cleat/shoe interface. If you have toe clips then flex the right one by hand to see if you can recreate the problem and tighten any bolts holding it on. If it does still occur then it's time to isolate further. You can try or you can have a shop do it. Also make absolutely sure that the click is coming from the bottom bracket area.

At this point I think the proper solution for the original shop* would be to forgive the 1st hour of labor. In that hour one could do all or most of the following:
  • Interview you to clarify under exactly what conditions the problem happens or stops, although that does seem fairly clear.
  • Test ride the bike as-is, under low and high pedal pressure, for a minimum of a couple minutes.
  • If there is no click then have you ride it with someone riding beside you to see if they can determine what might be occurring.
  • Remove both pedals, clean the pedal threads with wire brush and the area on pedal and crank where they meet with fine steel wool. Reinstall with greased threads, test ride.
  • If the click is still there temporarily install different pedals. If the click goes away the problem is the pedal body. NOTE: could be either pedal, as a click can come from either increased or decreased pedal pressure.
  • Remove both cranks, temporarily install another crank after cleaning the spindle flats with fine steel wool, test ride. If the click goes away then clean mating surfaces on inside of original crank arms with fine steel wool and reinstall.
  • If the click is still there remove chainring bolts, clean bolts and mating surfaces and check for click.
  • If the click is then there is still something wrong with the bottom bracket.

*Speaking as a former service manager. The shop erred by not properly diagnosing the first time, and if they follow the above procedure it will be valuable experience for them in the future.

p.s. Just saw you piggybacked on two other "click" threads as well!
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