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Old 03-02-05, 05:30 PM
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28 hole hubs - strongest lacing method?

Never built with 28h hubs before and wondered what people would recommend as a lacing pattern?

This for a Phil front hub. Can I build it just 3 cross, or is it better to use some other pattern? Want to get a solid wheel for urban riding out of this.

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Old 03-02-05, 05:34 PM
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I believe 3 cross > * as far as overall durability. I could be wrong, but that seems the general consensus.
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Old 03-02-05, 05:38 PM
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3x for sure.
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Old 03-02-05, 08:19 PM
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The pattern repeats, 3X.
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I agree with the 3cross. Altho you could use the two cross which is more pleasing visually and for a front the cross is not so important as their is no radial load at the hub.
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Old 03-02-05, 08:33 PM
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2 cross does look nice i must agree with Rev.chuck there. I think what i want to do is have half of the spokes black and other silver for a cool look. Or those tie die spokes
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
Or those tie die spokes

There is such a thing??!!!??? Please, send a link!
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Originally Posted by genericbikedude
There is such a thing??!!!??? Please, send a link!
Spokemakers who make titanium spokes usually offer a rainbowy finish option. One maker I can think of off the top of my head is Union Mawri. I'm not sure of the durability of Ti spokes though. I built a set of MTB wheels with some 14 gauge Ti spokes, and one of them kept breaking. Might have been just that wheel-hub combo. Couldn't have been my wheelbuilding skills; Right??. If you use Ti, make sure you tighten them up to the correct tension and use the right spoke prep.
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Old 03-03-05, 12:17 AM
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http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-25666
I just found this link for Ti spoke manufacturers
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Oops. Sorry. That's a cheesy link. Just Google titanium spokes.
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Don't bother with Ti, just get a good double butted stainless spokes with brass nipples. I prefer SAPIM.

Ti, Alloy nipples etc - look great, but usually end up costing you another wheel build.
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Yea thats just the kicker, its the ti spokes which are a huge waste of $.
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I ride a 20 hole radial on the front of my road bike with no problems (and Ohio roads are pretty rough).
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Originally Posted by Bike_13
Don't bother with Ti, just get a good double butted stainless spokes with brass nipples. I prefer SAPIM.

Good to hear from another Sapim believer. I build a few custom wheels around the area here, and I always try to convince people of Sapim, and I am usually shot down because the customer wants one of the other two brands.

I firmly believe in them because they are inexpensive and on my three personal bikes, I have NEVER broken a Sapim spoke.
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what about those SAPIM CXray spokes you see some some of these superlight and expensive wheels? I cant find any information on these.
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My favorite front wheel is 28h, 3X, stainless steel DT Revolution spokes, black alloy nipples.
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Originally Posted by Chongo
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-25666
I just found this link for Ti spoke manufacturers
http://www.mountshastageneralstore.c...okes_Main.html

Wow, man.. Maybe I like this, or maybe I'm just having acid flashbacks...
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Originally Posted by tkrueger
Good to hear from another Sapim believer. I build a few custom wheels around the area here, and I always try to convince people of Sapim, and I am usually shot down because the customer wants one of the other two brands.

I firmly believe in them because they are inexpensive and on my three personal bikes, I have NEVER broken a Sapim spoke.
I agree that Sapims are great spokes. I built a set of Zipp 404's with CX-rays and the spokes seem incredibly strong. I definately would not use Ti spokes again. The Polyax nipples that come with them are excellent too. They don't need spoke prep, and they don't seem to loosen.
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