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Old 09-15-13, 05:37 PM
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Broken Screw & Easy Out question

I installed new Ergon grips on our LHT's and while having mine bike upside down on the handle bars bars and seat one of the screw heads snapped off. This is the screw that attaches the grip to the bar.
I was thinking about drilling and using an Easy Out.
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What size screw?
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I think it is a 5mm. Looks to be the same size as the ones that hold our racks onto the frame.
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Originally Posted by Tandem Tom
I think it is a 5mm. Looks to be the same size as the ones that hold our racks onto the frame.
OK, then the odds favor you if you can drill straight. Usually breaking the head off (not torquing it off) removes the tension load in a screw, so it's purely a matter of getting traction to turn it out.
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A pick can sometimes be used to tap it. Reverse of the thread direction, carefully, may be able to coerce it out.
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If the end of the screw opposite of the head is accessible, that is it's a through hole as opposed to a blind one, drilling from that direction may back it out without the need for an Easy-Out. If that end of the screw is recessed in the hole so much the better as it will help guide a close-fitting bit down the center of the screw.
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
If the end of the screw opposite of the head is accessible, that is it's a through hole as opposed to a blind one, drilling from that direction may back it out without the need for an Easy-Out. If that end of the screw is recessed in the hole so much the better as it will help guide a close-fitting bit down the center of the screw.
I used this method to extract a sheared 5mm bolt. I tried the easy out but was unable to get a good enough bite on it. I was able to put the frame under a drill press and drill from the reverse end of the bolt, then I used a thin drywall screw to back out the sheared bolt.
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The opposite end is not accessible so I will attempt to drill it out. I was thinking about using my drill press and cominng up with some wat to hold the odd shape part.
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Originally Posted by Tandem Tom
The opposite end is not accessible so I will attempt to drill it out. I was thinking about using my drill press and cominng up with some wat to hold the odd shape part.
Since it's a blind hole, and assuming it didn't break from being jammed to the end of the thread.

Select a drill size slightly larger than a standard imperial or metric hex key, but smaller than the distance across the points. Drill the screw to a few millimeters depth. Grind the end of the key so it's sharp and square. Tap it into the hole so it broaches it's own path. You should now be able to simply turn the screw out.

You can do a similar thing with a screw driver, but most are too soft. If you have a hardware store nearby, and a bench grinder at home, cut nails ground to shape make excellent extractors using the above method.
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Left handed drill bits .... not a joke. Get a set and just watch how they spin broken screws out!
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Originally Posted by w8wfo
Left handed drill bits .... not a joke. Get a set and just watch how they spin broken screws out!
Yes, they often do a great job. But I don't know that they're readily available at the neighborhood hardware store.
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