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LSPlo 03-04-05 03:24 PM

Newb Torque Wrench Question
 
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/search_results.cfm

What's the 3/8 drive vs. 1/4 drive. What does that mean? What's the difference?

Yeah yeah yeah....I'm a big n00b.

phantomcow2 03-04-05 03:28 PM

I believe that has to do with the head of the wrench. FOr instance a head with a 1/4 drive fits a socket with a square cut out of 1/4.

Avalanche325 03-04-05 04:51 PM

Phantom is right. That is the size of the square hole on the socket that the wrench fits into.

Al1943 03-04-05 04:58 PM

This is why I'm sure our country has never been serious about going metric. The back side of all sockets, even the metric ones, have a square drive hole that is in fractional inches.

phantomcow2 03-04-05 05:27 PM

The country has never and likely will not be in our lifetimes.

neil0502 03-04-05 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by phantomcow2
The country has never and likely will not be in our lifetimes.

The trick is whether or not a Metric measurement is something you can "picture" without converting it first.

For example, do you have an idea of how big a 59cm seat tube is? Congratulations ;)

Retro Grouch 03-04-05 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by LSPlo
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/search_results.cfm

What's the 3/8 drive vs. 1/4 drive. What does that mean? What's the difference?

Yeah yeah yeah....I'm a big n00b.

On the surface it refers to the socket drive size, but it has a deeper meaning especially for torque wrenches. Components like crank bolts and bottom brackets usually require around 30 or 35 lb/ft of torque. Imagine a 30 pound weight on the end of a foot long wrench handle. That requires a medium hefty wrench with a 3/8" drive. Components like stems require around 12 lb/in of torque. That usually involves smaller fasteners that work better with a smaller 1/4" drive.

Can you use one torque wrench for both? Kinda, but it's pointless. To get an accurate torque reading, you need to use a torque wrench that includes your desired torque setting near the center of it's range. A 3/8" torque wrench won't be very accurate at 1 lb/ft of torque for installing a stem. It it's not going to be accurate, what's the point?

luke.harrison 03-04-05 06:40 PM

if you grow up with its not an issue...
I cant picture what 24" looks like.

Im gonna refrain from making anymore comments about the how the US system makes "sense".

Brian 03-04-05 06:43 PM

The metric system is easy, once you get the hang of it. But speed is a big ripoff. To see 120 (Km) on your speedo, and be going so slow. No fun.

Retro Grouch 03-04-05 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Al1943
This is why I'm sure our country has never been serious about going metric. The back side of all sockets, even the metric ones, have a square drive hole that is in fractional inches.

So what size engine does your car have? Bought any prescriptions lately? How about a bottle of booze? It's happening.

Retro Grouch 03-04-05 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by luke.harrison
if you grow up with its not an issue...
I cant picture what 24" looks like.

Im gonna refrain from making anymore comments about the how the US system makes "sense".

I have a friend who bought some tulip bulbs from Holland. He planted them 24" deep or whatever he thought it said on the package. Seemed awful deep at the time. HELLO! Holland, like everybody but us is a metric country. 24" is 24 millimeters, about 1 inch not a whole foot. Surpriseingly, most of the bulbs eventually came up anyway, but they were late.

luke.harrison 03-04-05 06:54 PM

actaully what's funny in canada is everything is metric except the height and weight of a person. So i know how tall 6' is and how much 200 pounds is. But ask me how far a mile is and im screwed.

Retro Grouch 03-04-05 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by luke.harrison
actaully what's funny in canada is everything is metric except the height and weight of a person. So i know how tall 6' is and how much 200 pounds is. But ask me how far a mile is and im screwed.

200 pounds. That's 10 stone, right?

Al1943 03-04-05 07:10 PM

Bicycles are not truly metric either. Steer tubes are 1 inch or 1 1/8 inch. Chains are one inch per link (1/2 inch pin to pin), and those are worldwide standards.

Al

Brian 03-04-05 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
On the surface it refers to the socket drive size, but it has a deeper meaning especially for torque wrenches. Components like crank bolts and bottom brackets usually require around 30 or 35 lb/ft of torque. Imagine a 30 pound weight on the end of a foot long wrench handle. That requires a medium hefty wrench with a 3/8" drive. Components like stems require around 12 lb/in of torque. That usually involves smaller fasteners that work better with a smaller 1/4" drive.

Can you use one torque wrench for both? Kinda, but it's pointless. To get an accurate torque reading, you need to use a torque wrench that includes your desired torque setting near the center of it's range. A 3/8" torque wrench won't be very accurate at 1 lb/ft of torque for installing a stem. It it's not going to be accurate, what's the point?

Most everything I need to torque on my bike is in inch/lbs. The torque wrenches themselves were all roughly the same price, but I went with 3/8 as that size had the widest variety of sockets in stock.

Rev.Chuck 03-04-05 08:17 PM

Torque wrenches are like peanuts and potato chips, you can't have just one.


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