10 speed up grade kit?
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10 speed up grade kit?
I came across a good deal on a mt bike upgrade package to go from 9 to 10 speed including cranks, chain, cassette....anyone try it and will it save me weight? All for under $300.
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A link or part number or something might help decipher what you are talking about.
What do you expect to accomplish by going from 9 speeds to 10? One more rear cog will be barely noticeable, the chain life will likely be reduced and the adjustments will be a little more finicky. I cannot see how adding an additional cog can be reasonably expected to reduce any weight, it will likely add a little.
I could personally find better ways to spend $300, but not knowing what you are asking about it's all a guess.
What do you expect to accomplish by going from 9 speeds to 10? One more rear cog will be barely noticeable, the chain life will likely be reduced and the adjustments will be a little more finicky. I cannot see how adding an additional cog can be reasonably expected to reduce any weight, it will likely add a little.
I could personally find better ways to spend $300, but not knowing what you are asking about it's all a guess.
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Saving weight depends on what exactly you have now and the exact weight of the replacement parts. You might save a few ounces but I doubt it'll be enough to notice.
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here is the link
https://www.blueskycycling.com/produc...-Combo-Kit.htm
https://www.blueskycycling.com/produc...-Combo-Kit.htm
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If your bike works well now I would just leave it alone, unless you just have a bunch of money to waste. If it doesn't work well now, I would just concentrate on tuning it up (or getting a different bike if not repairable). Buying that XT stuff won't add $300 of value or enjoyment to your bike. IMHO
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That's for a 2x10 upgrade from when you already have 10 speed, not a 9 to 10 speed upgrade.
If you were looking using that as a 9 to 10 speed upgrade, you need to add the RH shifter & rear derailleur, which would give you a complete 2x10 setup, front derailleur are 9/10 speed compatible.
If you were looking using that as a 9 to 10 speed upgrade, you need to add the RH shifter & rear derailleur, which would give you a complete 2x10 setup, front derailleur are 9/10 speed compatible.
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OUCH!
I did not even notice that part??? I was excited. Is there such a thing for 9speeds?
I did not even notice that part??? I was excited. Is there such a thing for 9speeds?
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If your bike works well now I would just leave it alone, unless you just have a bunch of money to waste. If it doesn't work well now, I would just concentrate on tuning it up (or getting a different bike if not repairable). Buying that XT stuff won't add $300 of value or enjoyment to your bike. IMHO
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XT is a nice crankset, but this isn't a "kit" for converting from 9 to 10 speed, it is a drivetrain rebuild/upgrade package for someone who already has a 10 speed drivetrain. In addition to shifters, you may also want to look at derailleurs. You might be able to use your existing derailleurs but shifting may be sloppy. I had that problem when I upgraded from a 3 x 7 drivetrain to 3 x 9. I swapped the RD but not the 7 sp Altus FD and it worked, just not quite right, until I popped for a new Deore 9 sp FD, now shifts like a dream.
A full conversion like this isn't cheap. Unless you have a great frameset you don't want to part with, or a very specific idea of what you want that isn't available commercially, you might even be better off (money and performance) just to get a new bike. There really isn't anything wrong with a decent 3 x 9 setup and parts in several grades are still readily available.
A full conversion like this isn't cheap. Unless you have a great frameset you don't want to part with, or a very specific idea of what you want that isn't available commercially, you might even be better off (money and performance) just to get a new bike. There really isn't anything wrong with a decent 3 x 9 setup and parts in several grades are still readily available.
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I am in a quandary....bored with the bike not sure what to do Also I have no $ to upgrade to new bigger better....I have been riding my SS 1993 steel rigid bike and having more fun. Debating how to improve the fun factor with out breaking the bank and or making the bike to limited. ie: going SS I need to gears to be a competitive rider here in the great NWNJ area to many hills
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Need better info - what do you mean by bored - you just want to change for the sake of changing? Don't know what bold part above means - there is an Edit function that can be used to make your post more understandable. What you need to be competitive is a good training program and lots of miles. You can get lower gears without adding a cog in the rear, but may well need a different derailleur and longer chain. Resist going to an 11 tooth cog on a wider range if possible - just too high a gear to be useful.
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I brought my bike (a road bike not a mountain btw) into a shop to get some bars and was wondering about "upgrading" to 10 spd from 9 spd. The sales guy, who was in a position to sell me new crap, told me I already have the upgrade. This shop is a bit unusual in that they build frames and cater to practical folks, but they went out of their way to acquire 9 speed gear when it was phased out in favor of 10 and 11 speed. They still use 9 speed on new builds. It lasts way longer and works better.
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Even switching from 7 to 9 speed, my RD had to be swapped and the old FD left a lot to be desired until it too was swapped out. I assumed the derailleurs in the OPs conversion would be an issue, but couldn't say absolutely.
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What does "Blue sky" mean please?
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I guess the internet has made research impossible. OK, I'm up to the challenge of doing both your critical thinking and your homework. Don't blame me for reducing your IQ.
According to Merriam-Webster, "blue sky":
1 : having little or no value
2 : not grounded in the realities of the present
According to Merriam-Webster, "blue sky":
1 : having little or no value
2 : not grounded in the realities of the present
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I guess the internet has made research impossible. OK, I'm up to the challenge of doing both your critical thinking and your homework. Don't blame me for reducing your IQ.
According to Merriam-Webster, "blue sky":
1 : having little or no value
2 : not grounded in the realities of the present
According to Merriam-Webster, "blue sky":
1 : having little or no value
2 : not grounded in the realities of the present
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I brought my bike (a road bike not a mountain btw) into a shop to get some bars and was wondering about "upgrading" to 10 spd from 9 spd. The sales guy, who was in a position to sell me new crap, told me I already have the upgrade. This shop is a bit unusual in that they build frames and cater to practical folks, but they went out of their way to acquire 9 speed gear when it was phased out in favor of 10 and 11 speed. They still use 9 speed on new builds. It lasts way longer and works better.
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nope wrong guess, but I think the retrogrouch attitude runs strong in Seattle ;-) I can relate, but hey different strokes for different folks. I do think that the gearing issue has reached a limit though for practical purposes. I think it's pretty well known the skinnier 10 speed and even more so 11 speed stuff wears out a lot faster than 8 and 9 speed stuff. So you have to ask yourself, do a really need that 10th cog? Why? Especially if I was running a mountain bike with a triple crank up front there's really no extra useful gearing you get by going to 10 speed. Also in the gritty off road environment everything is subject to more wear, or in the case of cassettes, clogging, so thicker chains and cogs and more widely spaced cassettes of the 9 speed could actually be described as an advantage. Hence the comment to my 9 speed drivetrain "you already have the upgrade".
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Really! So you want to come into this friendly conversation and insult me? Like I'm not capable of critical thinking, or looking something up. You don't know me. "Blue Sky" also refers to a literal weather condition. Why should I do research trying to find out what your silly insult means?
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