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Kotts 03-14-14 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by lopek77 (Post 16575954)
Since the holes are bigger/stretched after first built, does it make sense that the same process will happen after each wheel build?
It's the same quality/strength/thickness material from the hole, all the way to the outside, so there is nothing to stop that material from stretching even further.
I wouldn't build another wheel based on an old hub, but it's just me. It doesn't mean it can't be done though.

The first time you build a wheel with a new hub, you exceed the yield strength of the hub material, giving the hole distortions and grooves noted. As long as you rebuild in the same pattern (matching the stresses applied in the first build) and don't exceed the yield strength of the material again (unlikely unless you go crazy with spoke tensions) it's fine. If you change the stress pattern, you could have problems.

lopek77 03-14-14 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by cny-bikeman (Post 16576867)

It is not a reflection on you personally, but merely a fact that both your theoretical grounding and your empirical background are lacking.

Nobody is perfect, and nobody knows everything - myself included. That's why I'm here asking questions, and being part of discussion, instead of writing a new version of Big blue book of bicycle repairs.
Some BF veterans fight lack of knowledge with violent force :crash:

AnkleWork 03-14-14 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by lopek77 (Post 16577169)
. . .Some BF veterans fight lack of knowledge with violent force :crash:

Every time I read your posts, I remember your old avatar and recall that someone once wrote "methinks the lady doth protest too much." =)

lopek77 03-14-14 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by AnkleWork (Post 16577200)
Every time I read your posts, I remember your old avatar and recall that someone once wrote "methinks the lady doth protest too much." =)

WTF is wrong with you? You either trolling or forgot your pills...You also do very little thinking according to yourself.

AnkleWork 03-14-14 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by lopek77 (Post 16577217)
WTF is wrong with you? You either trolling or forgot your pills...You also do very little thinking according to yourself.

Tell us again, who do you say is violent?

lopek77 03-14-14 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by AnkleWork (Post 16577332)
Tell us again, who do you say is violent?

OMG...you still keep going... :roflmao2: Done with this nonsense. I have better things to do.

AnkleWork 03-14-14 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by lopek77 (Post 16577341)
OMG...you still keep going... :roflmao2: Done with this nonsense. I have better things to do.

But you don't keep going, right? BTW, I can hear your feet stomping. Thanks for that. =)

Thus the readers can conclude that reusing hubs, within the parameters stated is good practice.

cny-bikeman 03-14-14 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by lopek77 (Post 16577169)
Nobody is perfect, and nobody knows everything - myself included. That's why I'm here asking questions, and being part of discussion, instead of writing a new version of Big blue book of bicycle repairs.
Some BF veterans fight lack of knowledge with violent force

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You did ask a question, but proceeded to answer it yourself - incorrectly.

No idea what you mean by rewriting the Big blue book. I as well as others here often speak to more general issues that a particular problem brings up because it is more helpful to know the why of a problem than the what to do about it. What makes a mechanic is being able to apply what is learned in one experience to other situations. Contrary to your signature line, learning from a mistake involves much more than avoiding that particular mistake the next time.

Also no sense I can make of the reference to BF veterans. Not violence but my observation has been that you are often the initiator of snarky and insulting posts in a thread, merely because someone challenges your opinion. If they do so rudely then say so rather than responding in kind or escalating.

lopek77 03-14-14 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by cny-bikeman (Post 16577514)
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You did ask a question, but proceeded to answer it yourself - incorrectly.

No idea what you mean by rewriting the Big blue book. I as well as others here often speak to more general issues that a particular problem brings up because it is more helpful to know the why of a problem than the what to do about it. What makes a mechanic is being able to apply what is learned in one experience to other situations. contrary to your signature line, learning from a mistake involves much more than avoiding that particular mistake the next time.

Also no sense I can make of the reference to BF veterans. Not violence but my observation has been that you are often the initiator of snarky and insulting posts in a thread, merely because someone challenges your opinion. If they do so rudely then say so rather than responding in kind or escalating.

Please read my posts more closely and double check what, who and when. Also forum is based on challenging and sharing opinions.
I'm guessing, based on your thinking - school teachers should hate their students for asking questions, not knowing stuff and so on.
I can deal with different types of people and characters...I enjoy to see people trying to be smarter than they really are and going around the issues like it never happened.
No need to trash this otherwise interesting thread. I learned from it something, but you guys keep going like a pushy salesman. Just get over it /me/ and post something we can all learn from.

AnkleWork 03-14-14 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by lopek77 (Post 16577683)
Please read my posts more closely and double check what, who and when. Also forum is based on challenging and sharing opinions.
I'm guessing, based on your thinking - school teachers should hate their students for asking questions, not knowing stuff and so on.
I can deal with different types of people and characters...I enjoy to see people trying to be smarter than they really are and going around the issues like it never happened.
No need to trash this otherwise interesting thread. I learned from it something, but you guys keep going like a pushy salesman. Just get over it /me/ and post something we can all learn from.

"The clear problem of the outlawing of insult is that too many things can be interpreted as such. Criticism, ridicule, sarcasm, merely stating an alternative point of view to the orthodoxy, can be interpreted as insult."

Just WOW! Friendly suggestion: You might consider applying every word of that post to yourself and taking it to heart.

FBinNY 03-14-14 01:16 PM

Why we don't just leave this?

The OP already dicided to go ahead and re-lace (way pack at post no4),and there hasn't been any actual discussion of facts since post 15 or so. Since then it's just been arguments over who's the bigger horse's adz, something that I'm sure nobody is going to change his mind about.

fietsbob 03-14-14 01:20 PM

a couple people cracked the hub flange on their Rohloff hub,

they were in the Andes Mountains and it was a 32 hole hub on the back of a Tandem, so
now they also make a 36 hole hubshell ...

one way to make the cracked hub flange really Unlikely is building say a 4 cross 36 spoke

3 cross 32 spoke. or a 5 cross 48 spoke.. the first spoke crossed is another spoke headed in the opposite direction ..

so the metal between opposing spokes is in compression .. rather than being pulled towards the edge of the flange.

cny-bikeman 03-14-14 01:21 PM

Sounds good to me - bye!

CbadRider 03-14-14 02:34 PM

Here comes the teacher - time to stop the fight on the playground and head back to class.

Thread closed.


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