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jessestylex 03-19-14 05:09 AM

Need help on finding the right wheel!
 
I have a cheapo road bike the Denali 700c from wally world after 2k+ miles a few spokes broke on the rear wheel.
Does anyone know where I can get a cheap replacement?

This is the wheel specs they have online for it.
Rims: Vitesse Alloy black 700CX14GX36H

But I have no idea where to look the ones i see have no cassette and cost more than the whole bike did. I'd love to get back on the road.

Thanks!

Retro Grouch 03-19-14 05:44 AM

Cheapest replacement might be at your LBS. They'll take the cassette or freewheel off of your old wheel and transfer it onto your new one.

jessestylex 03-19-14 05:48 AM

Yea im not paying a bike shop. Is there a wheel on the net that fits my bike?

cny-bikeman 03-19-14 06:07 AM

Measure the inside width of the rim in mm and the distance from one locknut to the other on the hub (or distance between the inside of your fork dropouts (over locknut distance - OLD). Any 700c (622mm) wheel that is close to the inside rim width and equal to the OLD will work. Inquire with the merchant if either is not specified.

A wheel from a reputable dealer that insures the spokes are properly tensioned may be the cheapest in the long run, as the most likely reason your spokes broke was improper tension. A shop will likely charge $10-15 or more to check and properly tension a new wheel but the better ones may include that in the price.

Keep in mind that the appreciable store of knowledge in this forum in many cases comes from people who were or are employed at bike shops, and that your problems most likely arose due to bike that was not assembled and adjusted properly at a bike shop.

jgedwa 03-19-14 07:14 AM

A REAL Walmart Denali costs $159.00. Often on sale for $99.99. You say yours is "like" one. So, I will guess it is worth the same or less brand spanking new.

Perversely, decent bike parts cost more (often much, much more) than complete cheap bikes. You will have a hard time finding a replacement wheel for that bike that is less than the retail cost of the complete bike. Finding one that is not made of tin foil will be even harder. Finding one with a cassette installed that is not twice the cost of your bike is not going to happen. Not going through your local bike shop makes this project pointless. And, are we sure this bike has a cassette and not a freewheel? And that it is 700 and not 27" wheels? I have no idea, but have found that big box bikes tend to have odd part specs.

Buy a cheap but serviceable wheel on-line, buy a cassette, buy the right tool to install the cassette. Or consider the bike totaled. Or, maybe, just maybe go to a bike shop and see if they have any options that are better than the first two.

jim

dbg 03-19-14 07:18 AM

replace the spokes maybe? rebuild the wheel?

(almost reminds me of the neighbor who put his bike out with the trash because a tire was flat and it was no longer ridable)

himespau 03-19-14 07:24 AM

If memory serves, Denalis don't use cassettes. They use freewheels, so you're not going to find one with a cassette. Just find another cheap bike on craigslist that has a working rear wheel with the same number of cogs (and is the same size) for $30 and swap the wheels. Then save the other one for other replacement parts as yours break.

Retro Grouch 03-19-14 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 16591496)
If memory serves, Denalis don't use cassettes. They use freewheels, so you're not going to find one with a cassette. Just find another cheap bike on craigslist that has a working rear wheel with the same number of cogs (and is the same size) for $30 and swap the wheels. Then save the other one for other replacement parts as yours break.

That was my first thought but the back wheel is the part that usually fails first.

HillRider 03-19-14 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by jessestylex (Post 16591302)
Yea im not paying a bike shop. Is there a wheel on the net that fits my bike?

If you buy the same quality wheel you will be replacing it in 2000 miles again. A good, properly built and tensioned wheel should go 20,000 or more miles with no problems. You will pay for 10 new "cheap" wheels in that time. Your choice. Pay them now or pay them later.

jessestylex 03-19-14 08:11 AM

The wheel is also black. I may just buy a new bike with wheels that dont have spokes. So i dont have to deal with them in the future. Biker makers should have sites where you can the exact replacments parts like wheels cranks etc...Car makers do much better jobs and have far more parts.

Bill Kapaun 03-19-14 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 16591496)
If memory serves, Denalis don't use cassettes. They use freewheels, so you're not going to find one with a cassette. Just find another cheap bike on craigslist that has a working rear wheel with the same number of cogs (and is the same size) for $30 and swap the wheels. Then save the other one for other replacement parts as yours break.

+1
This is likely your cheapest option.
Sometimes people upgrade their wheels and sell the old ones for cheap.
I sold the take off wheels from my hybrid for $50 on CL. MUCH better wheels than on you Denali. These had the spokes properly tensioned and should last for decades.

HillRider 03-19-14 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by jessestylex (Post 16591683)
I may just buy a new bike with wheels that dont have spokes. So i dont have to deal with them in the future.

Good luck finding one.


Originally Posted by jessestylex (Post 16591683)
Biker makers should have sites where you can the exact replacments parts like wheels cranks etc...Car makers do much better jobs and have far more parts.

Bike components have far more commonality than car parts so bike manufacturers use the same groups. That said, the bike you bought has the cheapest parts available so you can expect further problems.

Bill Kapaun 03-19-14 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by jessestylex (Post 16591683)
......Car makers do much better jobs and have far more parts.

Pretend you have a YUGO.
You're much closer to that scenario then you realize.

dbg 03-19-14 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by jessestylex (Post 16591683)
The wheel is also black. I may just buy a new bike with wheels that dont have spokes. So i dont have to deal with them in the future. Biker makers should have sites where you can the exact replacments parts like wheels cranks etc...Car makers do much better jobs and have far more parts.

Maybe buy a decent used bike on craigslist. Dept store bikes are usually crap that is poorly assembled.

jgedwa 03-19-14 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by jessestylex (Post 16591683)
The wheel is also black. I may just buy a new bike with wheels that dont have spokes. So i dont have to deal with them in the future. Biker makers should have sites where you can the exact replacments parts like wheels cranks etc...Car makers do much better jobs and have far more parts.


Bike companies usually do an excellent job of providing information about such things. Did you buy a bike from a bike company or from Walmart? Have you mentioned what kind of bike it is, except to say it is like a Denali?

Wheel without spokes? You mean like plastic mags? Well, even they have spokes, but usually only three or four. And made of plastic. And are not truable. A run of the mill, but still not too expensive, wheel with 32 spokes that is made well, is an engineering marvel. They can last a lifetime.

mrrabbit 03-19-14 09:33 AM

135mm Rear 700 x 25 or 700 x 28c rear wheel that uses a freewheel instead of a cassette.

But there's nothing stopping you from buying the same with a cassette 7-speed cassette if you're willing to pay the extra for a cassette.

=8-)

DiabloScott 03-19-14 09:56 AM

A bike shop could probably replace a few spokes for you for a lot cheaper than you could find a new wheel. Working on those DSBs is a PITA though, so they might politely refuse your business.

Buying a Craigslist bike with the same wheelsize and swapping seems like the most promising scenario.

2,000 miles is probably about the design life criteria for a Denali.

fietsbob 03-19-14 09:58 AM

Bad politics to buy a wheel online and then ask the shop to put it on , unless you pay them generously for the service
a ship only seller never does , like hand tensioning and truing it , locally .

they, in the LBS have machine assembled wheels from their suppliers too, which are still less

than paying retail for all of the parts it takes to build a custom hand built wheel if all the same parts were chosen

this really is not saying much:
Rims: Vitesse (is just french word meaning speed) Alloy black 700CX14G(spoke Gage 2mm)X36H (how many)

jessestylex 03-20-14 07:10 PM

Hey guys im still confused on what I need.

The bike is the Denali

700c GMC, Denali, Road Bike, 22.5", Men's Bike, Black/Orange - Walmart.com




and here is the wheel im looking at.

Amazon.com: Wheel Rear 700 x 25, WEI-AS23X, QR Alloy FW 5/6/7 spd Silver Hub, 14g UCP spokes, 36H: Sports & Outdoors



can you tell me if it will fit or not?

Bill Kapaun 03-20-14 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by jessestylex (Post 16596876)
Hey guys im still confused on what I need.

The bike is the Denali

700c GMC, Denali, Road Bike, 22.5", Men's Bike, Black/Orange - Walmart.com




and here is the wheel im looking at.

Amazon.com: Wheel Rear 700 x 25, WEI-AS23X, QR Alloy FW 5/6/7 spd Silver Hub, 14g UCP spokes, 36H: Sports & Outdoors



can you tell me if it will fit or not?

Sure- Once you tell us what the OLD of your bike is.

mrrabbit 03-20-14 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun (Post 16596897)
Sure- Once you tell us what the OLD of your bike is.

Post #16

These GMC / Denali el cheapo deals are typically 135mm instead of 130mm.

The wheel the OP is looking at on Amazon is not the correct replacement...

=8-)

jessestylex 03-21-14 07:31 AM

Seems to be about 133 mm from my measurement. So what size wheel will work?

jessestylex 03-21-14 07:57 AM

i cant find any wheels that mention the OLD. The sellers don't know after asking them.

guess i'll try my luck.

Bill Kapaun 03-21-14 08:22 AM

Amazon.com: XLC X101 Rear Road - 700c, Black: Sports & Outdoors

All you have to do is recenter the axle by 2.5mm, redish the rim, buy a free wheel removal tool in the hopes that your free wheel is actually removable.

Sounds like it'd be a lot cheaper to buy a $50 wheel at the LBS and pay them $5-10 to swap over your free wheel.

jessestylex 03-21-14 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun (Post 16598005)
Amazon.com: XLC X101 Rear Road - 700c, Black: Sports & Outdoors

All you have to do is recenter the axle by 2.5mm, redish the rim, buy a free wheel removal tool in the hopes that your free wheel is actually removable.

Sounds like it'd be a lot cheaper to buy a $50 wheel at the LBS and pay them $5-10 to swap over your free wheel.

thanks. will my 700x32 tire fit this rim?


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