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cazzooo 03-23-05 08:26 PM

Spray On Oven Cleaner As A Degreaser?
 
Any Opinons on this using this? Anyone tried it?

neil0502 03-23-05 08:30 PM

There's an entire current thread on degreasers. Any reason not to use one of those?

cazzooo 03-23-05 08:46 PM

Well I have a can of oven cleaner sitting right next to me, right now. And I don't have a bike shop down the road.

BostonFixed 03-23-05 08:51 PM

Is there a hardware or grocery store/supermarket down the street from you? If the answer is yes to any, then you can get degreaser.
Got grease cutting dishwashing soap? You gots degreaser.
Read the "degreaser thread for more suggestions"

FarHorizon 03-23-05 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by cazzooo
Any Opinons on this using this? Anyone tried it?

Never tried it, but it should work fine. Use what you got!

catatonic 03-23-05 09:04 PM

my only concern is that it might eat the paint...so try it on a small area first...possibly even do a "test run" on a painted segment that won't be noticed so you can be sure that overspray, etc won't screw up your paint.

Dougmt 03-23-05 09:11 PM

It really eats aluminum... I used some to clean a good aluminum baking sheet we use and it pitted it something fierce. I do use it to clean the stove top though... a quick spritz, then a scrub, than a rinse with plain water.
Let me repeat though... IT'S TOUGH ON ALUMINUM
D

Nessism 03-23-05 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by cazzooo
Any Opinons on this using this? Anyone tried it?

I'd say don't do it. Some oven cleaners use lye which will eat off the anodizing on your aluminum parts. Even if it doesn't use lie, oven cleaners use harsh chemicals which won't do your bike any good.

Best to stay away and use something more friendly.

sydney 03-23-05 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by FarHorizon
Never tried it, but it should work fine. Use what you got!

How about battery acid? :rolleyes:

SteveE 03-23-05 09:27 PM

I think good 'ole soap and water will cut grease. But maybe that's just an urban legend.

Ebbtide 03-23-05 09:51 PM

I use it to degrease engines, strip the paint off refrigerators, dissolve cosmoline on old wooden stocks, kill roaches, blind my lover, and clean ovens.

I think it would do a number on the chain.

neil0502 03-23-05 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by cazzooo
Well I have a can of oven cleaner sitting right next to me, right now. And I don't have a bike shop down the road.

If you have a can of WD-40, you'd be much better off using that. If you don't, it's gotta' be readily available somewhere near you . . . and it's cheap!

Marge 03-23-05 10:20 PM

holy macaroni! oven cleaner wil eat your FLESH OFF!!! (don't believe me, spray some on your skin)
liquid dishwashing detergent, clothes detergent, hair shampoo would be a better degreaser then
oven cleaner.

2manybikes 03-23-05 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by sydney
How about battery acid? :rolleyes:


:lol:


I hope everyone understands what the rolleyes smiley means !!

cyccommute 03-23-05 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by sydney
How about battery acid? :rolleyes:

You're on the right track just have the wrong pH. Oven cleaners are basic not acidic. It would sopanify any grease derived from animal or vegetable fats but, unless you use bacon fat to grease your chain, I doubt that it would touch modern petroleum greases. These don't have any functionalities to sopanify. The way degreasers work on petroleum based greases and lubricants is by disolving like materials. A hydrocarbon grease will easily dissolve in another hydrocarbon like kerosene or gasoline. DO NOT USE GASOLINE! DO NOT mix detergent with gasoline to remove grease. Commercial degreasers use combinations of chemicals and detergents to remove grease and make it water-soluble.

cyccommute 03-23-05 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Nessism
I'd say don't do it. Some oven cleaners use lye which will eat off the anodizing on your aluminum parts. Even if it doesn't use lie, oven cleaners use harsh chemicals which won't do your bike any good.

Best to stay away and use something more friendly.

It won't stop at the anodization. It's the first step in making alum (used in canning pickles). If there is enough of it the aluminum part will dissolve in a nice gray puddle.

2manybikes 03-23-05 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute
You're on the right track just have the wrong pH. Oven cleaners are basic not acidic. It would sopanify any grease derived from animal or vegetable fats but, unless you use bacon fat to grease your chain, I doubt that it would touch modern petroleum greases. These don't have any functionalities to sopanify. The way degreasers work on petroleum based greases and lubricants is by disolving like materials. A hydrocarbon grease will easily dissolve in another hydrocarbon like kerosene or gasoline. DO NOT USE GASOLINE! DO NOT mix detergent with gasoline to remove grease. Commercial degreasers use combinations of chemicals and detergents to remove grease and make it water-soluble.


Sydney !! I guess everyone does not understand the :rolleyes:



:)

Raiyn 03-23-05 11:15 PM

Damn just spray the stuff in a paper bag and huff it. You'll forget all about cleaning your chain. :rolleyes: <Sarcasm Do NOT try this at home>
Over Cleaner is a noxious chemical that's extremely dangerous to just play around with. Just use some dish soap if you don't have anything handy. That and check out the current thread on the matter

catatonic 03-24-05 12:47 AM

oh, and for my poormans degreaser: Joy dishwashing soap, and rubbing alcohol...1:4 mix.

It is NOT gentle, but it's notgoing to do anything bad to you either...well aside from clean hands :p

sydney 03-24-05 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by cyccommute
You're on the right track just have the wrong pH. Oven cleaners are basic not acidic. It would sopanify any grease derived from animal or vegetable fats but, unless you use bacon fat to grease your chain, .........

I thiink I read somewhere that bacon fat was the hottest all purpose lube at Billy Bobs Farm Implment and Cycle Emporium in Buttcrack Aarkansas. ;)

darkmother 03-24-05 08:30 AM

NO! Oven cleaner is nasty stuff. It will take the annodizing off of aluminum parts. Use something else.

cyccommute 03-24-05 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by sydney
I thiink I read somewhere that bacon fat was the hottest all purpose lube at Billy Bobs Farm Implment and Cycle Emporium in Buttcrack Aarkansas. ;)

And, if you run across so particularly good road kill, you can fry it up right on the side of the road. Yummy :D

cyccommute 03-24-05 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by catatonic
oh, and for my poormans degreaser: Joy dishwashing soap, and rubbing alcohol...1:4 mix.

It is NOT gentle, but it's notgoing to do anything bad to you either...well aside from clean hands :p

You might be wrong there. Surfactants and volatile organic solvents are not a good combination. If it catches fire, and rubbing alcohol has a low flash point, the surfactant ensures that the alcohol will stick to you! It's why you don't use surfactants and gasoline.

Portis 03-24-05 08:48 AM

Yeah, i remember that song in the commercial.

"Easy Off makes bike destroying easier."

FarHorizon 03-24-05 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by sydney
How about battery acid? :rolleyes:

Couldn't say about H2SO4, but I've used gun cleaning solvent before and it worked fine. USE WHAT YOU'VE GOT! Degreasing isn't rocket science - there's more than one way to skin this cat.


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