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Old 05-28-14, 10:24 PM
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Mechanic's take on public repair stands?



This is a bike repair stand intended for public use. Placed in areas of high bike traffic to allow for quick fixes. Unfortunately no way to buy new tubes.

What are the pro and cons you guys see with these?

It seems that, a novice mechanic may not know what to do with most of these tools. And I'd assume putting one in front of your shop wouldn't be appealing for the shop and it's business.
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Old 05-28-14, 11:44 PM
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How many threads do you need to make about this (here, commuting, carfree, general, ?)?
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Old 05-28-14, 11:54 PM
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Just wanted as much feedback as possible. Not sure how many people frequent all these place. I must have forgotten my manners. No more cross threading for me.
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never seen any .. less frequent than clean public toilets..
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They are a great way to get tools into the hands of thieves.
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Old 05-29-14, 06:26 AM
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Might actually be good for business outside a bike shop. Then when the person screws up fixing their bike themselves, they don't have to wheel it far to pay more to have it fixed properly.
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We always had a bike stand and a limited number of tools for customers in the shop that I worked at. There was never any problem with it. I think those public stands are a good idea. Some places do have parts vending machines nearby
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Detroit aint CPH..


the design is tidy , though, ... a gap you put the seat post in.. & hang the bike by the seat.

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Old 05-29-14, 08:52 AM
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And the US isn't Denmark.. I seem to have missed your point.

You're saying Detroit isn't as bike friendly as Copenhagen?
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One was installed last year at my son's college in SoCal. It has a basic tool kit (allen wrenches, screwdrivers, tire lever, etc.) and tire pump. There is even a QR code for bike repair instructions. Seems to be going over well.
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Old 05-29-14, 09:17 AM
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I follow bike fixstation on Facebook. I like their design- some jerk can't lock their bike to it so it'll always be free if nobody else is around.

I think it's a good idea. We have bike racks here in town that have a floor pump captive in them. They too seem to be going over well.
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Originally Posted by import600 View Post
. . . Unfortunately no way to buy new tubes. . .
Highly doubtful.
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Realistically how many bicycle breakdowns happen on the road? And how many of those would occur within walking distance of a stand? And how many of those would need a stand for the work to be done?

It takes so little for bicycles to be self sufficient that there's no need for public stands like these, except as a giveaway for tools. Bikes could be serviced at home, bike shops or bike co-ops, and all that's needed on the road is a tube & pump. If a hand pump is inadequate, gas stations with compressors are more plentiful than public bike repair stations will ever be.
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We get a lot of customers mid-ride looking for pump, tune, or quick adjustment. Installing one of these outside the shop is one of my goals this Summer.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
We get a lot of customers mid-ride looking for pump, tune, or quick adjustment. Installing one of these outside the shop is one of my goals this Summer.
Free outdoor work stations with pump or some kind of loan a tool system are very appropriate for bike shops, and shops have been doing something like this for just about as long as there have been bike shops.

You don't need a fancy stand to make this happen at a bike shop, but a bike shop where there are people who'll tend to the unit, is different than a public place where there's no human presence.

Possibly the best place for something like this is at a suburban train station where there's something like a Starbucks who might benefit from the folks who stop to use it.
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Now, that may be something found at Select European Airports where a lot of Cycle Tourists fly into ..

Wasn't in ones I Used , Before .. Gatwick Shiphol And Dublin . I had my own tools ..


Here we get Boxes labeled Don't assemble .. then for a smaller fee than if we put them together ,

lend them a folding stand and some tools to use in a corner inside the shop..

there is a very nice Bus to the coast from PDX. for the cyclist to get here ..



Big college towns , on campus at the student center are another logical place ,

though the shop owners may veto them being around town perhaps influencing the city council
as they feel a threat to their meagre income.

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We've got one at the university. Last time I used it, I felt that the cables attaching the tools were a bit too short to use comfortably. Neat idea though, and better than nothing.
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We actually have a similar sort of stand set up in front of one of the shops I work at. I don't think it has much of an impact on the amount of business we do, but I do think that it may save us mechanics some time as people who might stop in just for something like adjusting saddle height or bar position may just take it upon themselves to do it at the stand rather than have us do it for them.
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Reminds me of an old Schwinn shop in my home town that generated lots of new wheel business by keeping a fishbowl full of "FREE" spoke wrenches by the cash register......
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Reminds me of an old Schwinn shop in my home town that generated lots of new wheel business by keeping a fishbowl full of "FREE" spoke wrenches by the cash register......
Warning- Thread tangenting ahead! See following post for on thread thoughts.

There's a story i was told when i started out wrenching back in the 1970s. A local shop owner sold bikes and gave away free spoke wrenches with each bike. He would cover all sorts of the usual warranty/servicing for free EXCEPT for wheels. He would say that there's too much crap that a rider could go over/through that can bang up a wheel for him to fix for free, so he would supply the customer with the tool needed to try it (the fix) themselves. Of course after a few ride the wheels settled in and were a bit wobbly. So the customer would think "glad I have that free tool, I'm going to make my wheels straighter with it". Of course most of the time the wheels only got worse and the customer would bring the bike back to the shop for wheel servicing, already knowing that the service was not going to be for free. Since the majority of the wheels were messed up from bad spoke tensioning and not actually a dent/flat spot the fix was pretty much undoing what the customer had done with that free tool. The shop looked great at the point of sale (free tool) and later when fixing what the customer couldn't (and didn't understand was mostly their own doing). The shop was creating their own work while looking great at the same time.

This was told to me by the shop i learned a lot of my foundation of wrenching from. At that time Raleigh supplied many of their bikes with a stamped steel multi tool. My boss told us to not give them away. When i asked why not the above story was said. Andy.
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Warning- Veering back on topic ahead!

We've talked about this at work a few times. We're about 1 mile from a popular river side bike/walking path. We've thought about supplying one of these public work stands at the path's cross roads (in a county park). Our discussions ranged from "it's a great service" to "it will get vandalized". We decided to not do it for a few reasons. First our money is still real tight (we moved to a new location a couple of years ago and are still paying off the loans), we weren't going to be able to advertise or direct riders to our store with signage (being in a public park) and the assumed need to service the stand periodically.

We also talked about installing one behind our shop. This would solve some of the park's restrictions but we decided that the amount of free advice we'd be expected to give out wouldn't be worth it. We also got some negative response from the building's other tenets and landlord.

I personally think it's a neat idea but best done in a setting that's not easy to come by. A public area. Well lit at night. Near but not next to a LBS or two. Sponsored by a non profit group. Basic parts vending machine next to it. Andy.
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Eagle Scout Coordinates Parkway Fixit Stations

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a...epair-stations

A New Bike Repair Station on American River Parkway by Sunrise Bridge

Eagle Scouts Set Up Bike Repair Stations Along American River

... our co-op donated about enough money for one of them, the other two came from his fundraising.
I was skeptical (and still am) about how long the tools would stay attached, etc, but have thus far been proven wrong.

These are areas that are not particularly well lit at night, and the lower part of the bike trail, about
two or three miles downriver from the last of these stations, is a pretty well populated homeless
camping area in the greater Sacramento area. So it seems inevitable that eventually there'll be a problem,
but it has not happened yet, and they've been in place for a while now.

I don't think the pumps are going to last very long, even though he bought the deluxe heavy duty ones.

You might consider contacting the person whose project this is directly through his Indiegogo link.
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I'm not a commuter who waits for a train or bus, but if I were, I'd be over the moon to have an opportunity to deal with that nagging clicking instead of just sitting there.
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I'm not a commuter who waits for a train or bus, but if I were, I'd be over the moon to have an opportunity to deal with that nagging clicking instead of just sitting there.
...I've actually used the ones here to tweak saddle and bar setups on bikes that are recently reworked.

I could, of course, carry the tools required, but often forget in my haste to ride a new project bike.
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