phoebeisis

Help
I need to get a good for the $$-frame or frame/floor PUMP.Something that doesn't require me to hold it steady while furiously pumping it.

Three days ago I had a-40 minute walk after 12 minute ride- 95 degrees blazing sun
Got a flat-something sharp-punched a 3-4mm slit into my tire just as I started up the mississippi levee

Took tire off-actually found slit in tube-no patches(dumb-forgot to put them in)
but I had a tube
Replaced tube-but as I was furiously pumping it up-
TINY telescoping pump-I must have wiggled it too vigorously(it was hot and I WAS IN A HURRY)
I heard the not a bit welcome sound of air hissing thru the valve hole
Yeah-must have too aggressively pumping-allowed too much wiggle
Yes I have fixed 500 flats-know better-but sure seems like the tube valve area is "weaker" on current tubes
Of course I'm a cheapskate-so maybe I should buy better 26" tubes??
Any ideas on tubes

Good pump good tubes??
I am satisfied with my vinyl rim strips-only 1 flat per 2-3 months now-ride daily and we have some burrs on the levee
Not in the same league with those miserable "goat head" things-nothing is in a class with those little SOBs

So good for the money frame or even frame/floor pump. It can be up to 18-19" long
I will probably just duck tape it to the down tube-or mount it if the brackets are good.
Thanks
Charlie

xenologer

topeak road morph

doctor j

+1

edthesped

+1 on the road morph. I had the highly rated "pump me up! bike pump" that I purchased on Amazon and tried to top up tires in the middle of a 4 day ride and ended up with a little less air than I started with, ~60 psi, after 10 minutes of pumping. I purchased the Road Morph at a bike shop on the road and performs very well. Also, I find that I don't necessarily have to use the foot peg as the flex hose eliminates stress on the valve stem while pumping.

Looigi

The Morph is kinda big and heavy for my roadie affectations. I have and use a Lezyne Road Drive and a Topeak Race Rocket. Both are small, lightweight and have hoses. Of the two I prefer the RR as it's hose rotates freely and the chuck is a better design IMO. They are small, so it takes quite a few strokes and some arm strength to get up to 90+psi, but I can reliably pump up a 25mm road tire in well under 2 minutes with either.

TrojanHorse

I agree - I have a road morph G and after having it slide down into my pedaling area more than once, and hitting it with my leg more than once I gave up and got a road drive. The road morph G is a FANTASTIC pump to use though, if you can find a place on your frame where it won't drive you nuts. It's like a tiny little floor pump, foot peg and all. The road drive is more of a last resort for me - if I use up my 3 CO2 carts then I get that out. I also use it for finding leaks & starting the tire on the wheel after a flat. it tucks right in between my seat tube water bottle and the seat tube though. Very unobtrusive.

SkyDog75

Road bike? Topeak Road Morph
Mountain bike? Topeak Mountain Morph

The Road Morph is great for high pressure, low volume tires like the skinny tires on most road bikes. The pump has a narrow cylinder, which makes it easier to pump to higher pressures, but it means you're not moving a lot of air on each stroke. Because of that, it takes lot of strokes to fill a mountain bike tire with a Road Morph. For high-volume tires, Topeak sells the Mountain Morph. It has a wider barrel, so it moves a larger volume of air per stroke.

There's also the Mini Morph, which is basically a shortened Road Morph without the built-in pressure gauge. Being smaller, it's easier to find a mounting spot for it -- especially for those of us who don't ride large frames.

Jed19

I recommend the Race Rocket too. I have it mounted under the bottle cage on my road bike. I use it only to start and sit my tires, then top off with CO2.

nfmisso

Topeak Turbo Morph Bike Pump with Gauge
Robot Check
Fills 38-622 tire to 90psi quickly The gauge is acceptably accurate (±5 psi) Reliable attachment hardware.

phoebeisis

Thanks all-great forum.
I will have to take back all the nasty things I have said about any LCers(for now)

Now the proud BUYER-of a Topeak Road Morph G- just 12" long-pretty short.
My bikes are rigid steel framed MTBs-just road bikes with 1.95 tires.
I pump them to 65psi or so.
It will fit OK on one of the tubes-just tape it on if the clap interfere with pedaling-pad the frame a little-extra wrap of tape so it will tape back on easily enough

The pump in my fanny bag-was a post Katrina rehab/rescue-can't find a name on it.
It works-but it has a 76mm stroke with OD of tube 23 mm- TINY TINY-
It takes many HUNDREDS of strokes-to get a 2" 26" tire to firmness
But it actually works-which constantly surprises me.

The Road morph will be a HUGE improvement
At home I have a nashbar orange pump-works fine- 1st pump head wore out rather quickly-but replacement hose head have worked pretty well-4 years so far.

Thanks again
Charlie
PS Good but cheap-ish 26" 2" tubes?? These Maxis welter weights-very fragile

zonatandem

*Almost* a pleasure to air up a tube after flatting with a Topeak Morph!
100 strokes gets 100 Lbs of pressure in our 700x25mm tires on our tandem.

TireLever-07

I have an older frame pump. I've learned to lean the finished tire against a tree, fence, guardrail etc. When doing the final pumping. Holding the valve & tire with one hand. Check your rim strips too, the tire has too "slide" some near the valve stem when being inflated. Chris.

dwmckee

+ another one.
I have one and a CO2 inflator, the inflator is a waste in my opinion with the need to carry so many extra cartridges and when you are out they are useless...

easyupbug 

+1 if you rely on one pump or need the backup, but even if it is one the the best at substituting for a floor pump it is not a floor pump, there are much much better home/shop pumps out there at reasonable expense, also it is a load on a road bike and pretty ugly on my skinny steel frames. When I rode carbon I carried one and it absolutely worked well.

Looigi

+ lots on having a floor pump for maintenance and routine tire inflation. They're way easier to use and get an accurate pressure reading.

FWIW, on the Morphs and the Lezyne pumps with the pen gauge that I used, the indicators stuck and jumped in 10-20 psi increments making it impossible to accurately set tire pressure.

jyl

Didn't the pump come with a mount that goes under the bottle cage bolts? Taping it to your frame tubes seems really inconvenient. You'll want to top up your tires periodically, having to untape then retape the pump each time seems worth 50 pump strokes in hassle.

For a smaller option, I found a Leyzne Pressure Drive - a fat one like this Lezyne Pressure Drive S Mini Pump in a used parts bin for $10. It inflates a 26" tire surprisingly quickly. The fat Pressure Drive couldn't deliver enough pressure (in my hands) for a skinny road tire, but for bringing fatter tires to 80 psi it was just fine, and it fit in a pocket or bag.

phoebeisis

Thanks again all
It should arrive in 6 days or so
Looking forward to getting it-like a present!!
I have the nashbar orange for home use-it is an actual floor pump
Cheap of course $40 maybe-but it works pretty well.
The first hose and head "wore out" rather quickly-maybe 1 year
the replacement hose head cost $10-looks the same but the seals at the head MUST be sturdier-because that was 4 years ago
Nashbar stuff is usually OK-but it is never "the best" and sometimes it is somewhat less than OK- never out and out junk,but not quite OK.
Yeah you get what you pay for-so no complaints-
cheap is cheap

Oh I don't plan to tape it to the frame-it will come with mounting brackets-but sometimes they are inconvenient or bulky-
in which case duck tape and padding will do.

Oh any suggestions on "good" 26" tubes?? Regular 2" or so tubes-not puncture resistant ones just ones with a decent stem to tube "joint"
lately more tubes seem to fail at the stem to tube-ones I haven't "worked over"
Yes I would be willing to pay $8-$10 for a good tube-normally I cheap out
but this most recent batch of cheap tubes Maxis welterweight-are very delicate.