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Old 09-13-14, 08:49 PM
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What parts do you never skimp on financially?

I mean, bar wrap is bar wrap, right? But what would you always spend a little extra on for your ride?
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The core elements of a bike that last the longest are where I invest the most. Unlike many this investment is sweat and a little skin as I build my own frames. For components it's the same , except the sweat and blood. Hubs, cranks, saddle, calipers and levers. Contact points next. Andy.
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"Never" is a very long time.
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Saddle. Gotta keep the bum happy.
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If breaking it will drop me on the tarmac, I'll pay the extra $$$.
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Originally Posted by spinachface View Post
I mean, bar wrap is bar wrap, right? But what would you always spend a little extra on for your ride?
Saddle, shoes, handle bar...the ones I like are simply what I think I need. Tires are high on the list, but comfort is king.

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Old 09-14-14, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by spinachface View Post
I mean, bar wrap is bar wrap, right? But what would you always spend a little extra on for your ride?
That's funny because I was thinking just the opposite. Nobody can afford the best of everything but almost anybody can afford the best of one thing. In my case in the past at least, that was bar wrap. The bikes that I ride today don't use bar wrap but I still buy high end leather and cork hand grips.

Other than that, I just can't bring myself to spend DA or XTR prices. Some years ago I noticed that Ultegra prices were just short of double 105, and DA prices were close to double Ultegra. I can't bring myself to spend it even when my wife isn't watching.
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Old 09-14-14, 07:47 AM
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As with most everthing, more money with get you better performance up to a point. Usually that point is mid range. Beyond that you are buying a name and snobbery.
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Old 09-14-14, 08:09 AM
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Brake pads, tires, and saddle. Three places where you really want quality.
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What's best depends on the criteria you're using, and doesn't necessarily correlate with price.
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Tires come to mind. It's possible to buy a reliable and safe tire for less than $20 on sale, but a well made and smooth riding tire is worth the investment.

I tend to replace just about everything on the bikes I buy used and restore. Nothing is better than a safe and highly functional bicycle. Nothing is more aggravating or unsafe than a bicycle that was built to a low price point and sold in volume to the uninformed public. Even better bikes have components that need to be upgraded by the owner.
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Saddles, hubs, gloves
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one general tip for when the exact hub cone is not readily available. discovered that the curvature of the bearing surface on the shimano 600 was a pretty good "skeleton key" for many applications. it would sometimes require a small change in ball size to make everything come out correctly.
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Tires come to mind. It's possible to buy a reliable and safe tire for less than $20 on sale, but a well made and smooth riding tire is worth the investment.

I tend to replace just about everything on the bikes I buy used and restore. Nothing is better than a safe and highly functional bicycle. Nothing is more aggravating or unsafe than a bicycle that was built to a low price point and sold in volume to the uninformed public. Even better bikes have components that need to be upgraded by the owner.
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That was the first thing that came to mind.
I use inexpensive tires, but wouldn't have any qualms about paying more for one that worked "better" for my needs.
I always use Grade 25 bearing balls. The price isn't really any higher (and sometimes less) than the lower grades, so why not use the best on the wheels & BB, since they are pretty much being used all the time.

Other parts I'll probably buy a higher quality are things I buy online.
Since I'll probably be paying S&H, I try to justify the added expense by getting a little better quality part.

One thing I AM going to change in my buying habits is to get a better quality hub for my wheel builds.
I was getting the cheapest Shimano hubs, but I'm going up to Deore or similar quality. I've seen a pitted cone for no apparent reason on the RM-30 hubs I was using. And I DO add extra grease and adjust the bearings before use.
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Everything I buy is a lot nicer than skimp - not necessarily the top tier though.

OK, I do have some waterbottles that were free.
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What's quality enough without paying weight weenie money?
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I don't buy top end tires, but I also don't buy cheapo tires. I buy Paselas most of the time, at about $20.

Most of my bikes have leather saddles, but it's at risk of theft when I lock it up, so I'm using the cheapest I can tolerate on my Viscount. It's a Selle Royal Viper which I got off a bike my wife bought. She didn't like it.

More and more, I'm appreciating really good lights. I've bought so many bad lights that ended up being unsatisfying. It's cheaper to buy the good stuff first.
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I tend not to skimp on anything. By that, I mean I will spend what it takes to get the quality and performance I need for the intended purpose. This doesn't always mean top shelf or most expensive. For example, I don't consider Alivio/Deore level parts on a commuter/beater to be skimping as they are durable, reliable, and entirely suitable for the intended purpose.

I'm a 50-year-old Clyde and I'm into riding for recreation, fitness and socializing so 105 components are perfect for my cro-mo road bike so I don't consider them skimping either.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
What's quality enough without paying weight weenie money?
On a ordinary vintage bike, like the Miyata 615 I restored for my daughter, I'll use 3x8 Shimano Deore. Chains, cassettes, shifters, crankset are very economical and it is easy to find for about $20 to $30. 8 speed Shimano 600 can be mixed in if the bikes is using road bike parts.

On bikes with 9 speed Cassettes, 6500 Tiagra or Deore is very good.

On 10 speed bikes, 105 is moderately priced and is very functional and durable.
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I agree with others that mid-range tends to be the sweet spot for most components. Saddles, rims, and tires are the main things I tend to notice higher value on the high end for the sort of riding I do (touring and commuting).
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I tend to buy what I like. My bike is 8 years old, has 5600 components. I buy Shimano cables, Kool Stop brake pads, Continental GP 4000S tires, and Cinelli tape; and that pretty much covers the consumables. I still end up spending about the same or less on my bike (not counting initial purchase cost) than I spend on running, since the shoes I like cost about $120.
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So there seems to be a few families of thought here. Contact points, as in saddle and bar wrap. Expendables as tires and pads, but these could also be called safety items. A few mentioned bearings/hubs. No one yet (but me) mentioned the part that lasts the longest and, pretty much is not changed ever (of if is defines a different bike) the frame. Andy.
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Also sometimes the cheap consumable is a false economy. If the $40 chain lasts twice as long as the $30 chain, then the more expensive part is the better buy. This explains why I replaced the worn out SRAM 951 chain on my commuter with a Shimano XTR chain. I also find that more expensive tires hold up better and Jagwire cables are worth the premium over generic just because they are less hassle to set up.
I buy mostly mid range bikes and usually end up with mid-range replacement parts since I usually buy equivalent or better, so worn out LX/105 cassettes mostly end up replaced with XT/Ultegra and rim brake pads are mostly replaced with KoolStop.
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crap frame quality
is less of a problem than
crappy tires and wheels
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