Wheel rim size...700 vs. 27
Could I put 27 inch wheels onmy 700 c bike? I need to get new rim and want larger tires 28mm for the old girl how much more space would I need for the 27in rims? I need 36 hole rims. :notamused:
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27" has a bead seat diameter of 630 mm while 700c has a BSD of 622, making 27" a poor choice if you want to fit bigger tires.
You'd have to look at maybe 650B AKA 27.5" at a BSD of 589 mm(I believe), but the you run into brake reach issues for rim brakes. |
A 27" rim (ISO 630) is 8 mm larger in diameter than a 700c (ISO 622) and 28 mm tires (1-1/8" in 27" parlance) will make it even larger. Do your frame and fork have the clearances for this extra diameter and can your brake shoes be moved up the needed 4 mm to align with the new rims? Why not just fit 700-28 tires to your current rims?
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The frame and fork were designed around 700c wheels - there's absolutely no good reason for putting 27" on there. You'll just reduce clearance for tire and fenders, and make it difficult to get the brakes working properly. There are a far wider range of tire widths and models available in the 700c size compared to 27".
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27" = dead size/format, If your frame wasn't designed for 27" wheels, they won't fit, unless you have large clearances, could cause toe overlap and other un-intended complications
You do know that the tire width has nothing to do with the diameter? with 1800+ post, would hope you have some idea of what fits.. |
Out of curiosity why would you want to put 27" wheels on your 700c frame? Most folks, myself included, do just the opposite to get the wide range of modern options.
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I am plannning to get 28mm tires and go gravel grinding.....huge amount of tire space.:) |
And, lots more tire choices with 700c.
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Originally Posted by robert schlatte
(Post 17138396)
Out of curiosity why would you want to put 27" wheels on your 700c frame? Most folks, myself included, do just the opposite to get the wide range of modern options.
But size does matter so I may just get the 28mm tires and find a cheap 36 holed 700c rim... Thnaks |
i have a 2012 ford focus and i would like to run it on whale blubber please direct me to a supplier of blubber tanks that can be retrofitted onto cars Natural gas-propane jets in the carburator. Or render it down to Oil , it would perhaps burn in a USSR-Russian Diesel Truck or Tank . |
Originally Posted by thehammerdog
(Post 17138621)
I need to replace the 36 hole rim and saw far more deals on 27" rims thus I figured why not?
But size does matter so I may just get the 28mm tires and find a cheap 36 holed 700c rim... Thnaks |
Originally Posted by thehammerdog
(Post 17138621)
I need to replace the 36 hole rim and saw far more deals on 27" rims thus I figured why not?
But size does matter so I may just get the 28mm tires and find a cheap 36 holed 700c rim... Thanks |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 17138647)
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Natural gas-propane jets in the carburator. Or render it down to Oil , it would perhaps burn in a USSR-Russian Diesel Truck or Tank . |
Hey if you got the beached whale laying around , you improvise..
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Why are you stuck on 36 spokes?
Why not 32 or 48? |
Originally Posted by thehammerdog
(Post 17138621)
I need to replace the 36 hole rim and saw far more deals on 27" rims thus I figured why not?
But size does matter so I may just get the 28mm tires and find a cheap 36 holed 700c rim... Thnaks Unless you have some Campagnolo Record hubs, for instance, then by all means get rims :) |
I built a new wheel. On the first pass the spokes were too short; I couldn't figure why. So I switched to building it 3-cross instead of 4-cross. After I finished I tried to mount a 700c tire: the tire was too small: they had given me a 27-inch rim instead of a700c. They cheerfully exchanged rims (700c was on the invoice) but didn't refund the 10 hours I spent building the wheel.
A tourist traveling long distances on back roads will have an easier time finding a replacement 27-inch tire - at least that was the state of affairs 20-30 years ago. Wal-Mart has one 700c tire now, a 38, which is bigger than I like, but better than walking. Oddly they sell bicycles with 700cx25 tires. |
Originally Posted by RandomTroll
(Post 17139627)
Wal-Mart has one 700c tire now, a 38, which is bigger than I like, but better than walking. Oddly they sell bicycles with 700cx25 tires.
You can get skinny tire bikes on their website but I've never seen any in store. But stores in different areas stock different things. |
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 17139712)
I thought GMC Denali had 32s stock. Same with the Thruster Fixie.
The non-tourist may, reasonably, not care. I haven't toured in years and live in a city so I don't care - but if I did I'd shop the Walmart, Kmart, Western Auto..., to see what they have and switch, if possible, so I could buy replacements in Dog Biscuit, Kansas. |
Originally Posted by thehammerdog
(Post 17138621)
I need to replace the 36 hole rim and saw far more deals on 27" rims thus I figured why not?
But size does matter so I may just get the 28mm tires and find a cheap 36 holed 700c rim... Thnaks Ebay might have rims or wheelsets which would complement an older bike. I have a 1988 Schwinn which can take a 27" wheel but there is no room for any but a 1" tire and I am not even sure about that. I did not do a conversion but just trial fit a wheel I had. You could respace your frame for a more modern wheelset or maybe the wheelset could be respaced if the spacers and locknuts will allow it. |
Originally Posted by RandomTroll
(Post 17139757)
I don't understand your comment: GMC Denali? Thruster Fixie?
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Originally Posted by Selicate
(Post 17139917)
Those are Wal-Mart's most popular selling road and fixed gear bikes, respectively.
If Walmart sells bicycles for which they don't sell replacement tires do they expect the buyers to stop riding them before they need a spare? |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 17139342)
Hey if you got the beached whale laying around , you improvise..
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Originally Posted by RandomTroll
(Post 17140244)
Thanks. I just buy parts at Walmart. I'd give their 700c tire a try if it would fit my rim, but it's too big. While looking I noticed that some of the bicycles advertise having 700c wheels, so I looked more closely and saw that some of them have 700c x 25 tires, but they sell only a 38 in a 700c tire. A rim that can take a 32 can probably take a 38.
If Walmart sells bicycles for which they don't sell replacement tires do they expect the buyers to stop riding them before they need a spare? Your market may vary and Walmart can adjust in-store availability to match a certain market. Some stores carry the fatbikes and some don't, for instance. The bike assembler at a local store wishes they could carry the fatbikes but the powers that be won't allow it. |
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