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Old 12-01-14, 01:33 PM
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Tire seal tricks for weight weanies

Hello all,

I hope all is doing fine and surviving the onslaught of marketing hacks.

I have a question and I haven't really found any solutions on my own and this is in regards to maybe having a road wheel that is a little more impervious to flats.........without the added weight penalty. I'm looking at doing a little added protection by using Stan's No Tube solution in a regular inner tube. I'm thinking of splitting this tube and use it for two wheels. I haven't really found any videos on doing this, but I did find this one and it's kinda what I want to do. (can fast forward for the first 1 min)

Doing this would probably not protect me from nails and rail spikes, but that's not what is causing just about all my flats. I get them from thorns and glass. This would give me some protection I would think.

Is there any gurus or experimenters out there that have done something along this line? Am I late to the party and I just can't find the info?

Thanks for reading this and I wish you the best.
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What do you want to do?
If you want to add sealant to a tube, just do that.
Get a tube with a removeable valve core, remove core and squirt in sealant.
I've used a syringe with good results. There are volume recommendations on the sealant bottle usually.
Don't understand what you mean by "splitting the tube and using it for two wheels".
There's a fix called "ghetto tubeless" where you do use a split tube. But as you need to use the valve, and there's only one of those per tube, there's not much you can do with remainder of the tube.
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Cheap, light or strong, pick 2. Look at tubeless tires. Look at schwalbe tires. No added weight? HaaaaHaa, good luck with that. Thorns? Some of the scwhalbe stuff is good for that. The road tubeless stuff is not quite there yet. The mt bike tubeless, awesome stuff.
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Originally Posted by dabac View Post
What do you want to do?
If you want to add sealant to a tube, just do that.
Get a tube with a removeable valve core, remove core and squirt in sealant.
I've used a syringe with good results. There are volume recommendations on the sealant bottle usually.
Don't understand what you mean by "splitting the tube and using it for two wheels".
There's a fix called "ghetto tubeless" where you do use a split tube. But as you need to use the valve, and there's only one of those per tube, there's not much you can do with remainder of the tube.
I'm just looking for a little more "protection" by doing the idea I stated. Yeah I could get a tube with a removable valve core, but this trick outlined in the video and other videos too, looks like I can pull this off without having to buy those types of tubes. Regarding "splitting the tube and using it for two wheels", I saw that and I figured it would be self evident, but I guess that wasn't the case. What I was trying to say was use one Stan No Tube bottle for two tires. This still comes with a little weight penalty but at a small penalty vs performance. I saw the ghetto tubeless videos but that's mostly geared towards MTB.
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Also it seems like just cutting the tube and dumping the sealant in, then patching the tube would be a good option to avoid messing with the "non-removable" valve core.
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Cutting the tube? To give yourself a flat before you ride? Awesome idea. Ever try to patch a tube with liquid in it? Removable valve core tubes seem like a good option. Go to the stans site, some good ideas there.
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I've done it before (add sealant to a regular presta tube)and I can tell you it is tricky. The idea is to remove the locknut by unscrewing it past the stop- probably will need pliers for this- allowing the core to drop into the tube. Pinch the tube to keep the valve from moving too far away. Now push in your half bottle of sealant, maneuver the core back through the valve, and put the locknut back on. Bonus points for re-burling the end of the threads.
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I'm just looking for a little more "protection" by doing the idea I stated. Yeah I could get a tube with a removable valve core, but this trick outlined in the video and other videos too, looks like I can pull this off without having to buy those types of tubes. Regarding "splitting the tube and using it for two wheels", I saw that and I figured it would be self evident, but I guess that wasn't the case. What I was trying to say was use one Stan No Tube bottle for two tires. This still comes with a little weight penalty but at a small penalty vs performance. I saw the ghetto tubeless videos but that's mostly geared towards MTB.
I'm using a phone right now. Youtube isn't much fun that way.
Splitting a tube is quite different from splitting a bottle.
But the sealants meant for MTBs and other low/mid pressure applications don't always do that well in/on road bikes tubes/tires.
Sealants have been known to either seal valves completely, as in jamming them shut. Or to prevent them from sealing properly. If you use the right kind, the tubes you have can be reused elsewhere. If you mess them up, they're scrap.
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Originally Posted by Leebo View Post
Cutting the tube? To give yourself a flat before you ride? Awesome idea. Ever try to patch a tube with liquid in it? Removable valve core tubes seem like a good option. Go to the stans site, some good ideas there.
I'm thinking it would be fairly easy to do if you're careful. Also it looks like Stans site is geared towards MTB. There is one with a road bike, but that is just something on fixing a flat on a tubeless setup. My idea is actually with a tube.

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if you want a simple and inexpensive way to prevent a lot of small objects, like those you mentioned, from causing flats, just put in a tire liner. they may even CAUSE some flats, but the number is sufficiently less than the number they prevent to make them very worthwhile. reusable, easy to install and help prevent pinch flats too.

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Also it seems like just cutting the tube and dumping the sealant in, then patching the tube would be a good option to avoid messing with the "non-removable" valve core.
One of My Buddies did that , because he loved the ride of Sew Ups , even Cheap ones .. commuting . [GM Dealer Mechanic]

then sewed up the tire and Glued down the base tape when the patch over the Hypodermic needle site was Patched.

then Glued the tire on the wheel .

add some of those wire things that knock off debris before they can work their way thru the tread,
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For some reason the link at the OP is not working. Here it is Stan's NoTube
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Tubes with removable cores only cost a couple bucks more than tubes without. I had a flat after only a couple weeks riding new Gatorskin clinchers, then I put sealant (Bontrager) in my tubes and am hopeful that it will help. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan View Post
if you want a simple and inexpensive way to prevent a lot of small objects, like those you mentioned, from causing flats, just put in a tire liner. they may even CAUSE some flats, but the number is sufficiently less than the number they prevent to make them very worthwhile. reusable, easy to install and help prevent pinch flats too.
Rhinodillos claims they've recently licked that problem by putting silicone Soft-Tips on the ends of their liners so there's no sharp edge to cut through tubes. Don't know if that actually works, although their liners have gotten good reviews when compared against Mr. Tuffy.
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Stan's and other sealants are nearly as effective when used with a tube compared with a tubular or tubeless tire. The problem is that when a tube gets a puncture the tube moves around in the tire, and knocks the sealant loose before it can really form a good plug. It'll still work sometimes but don't expect miracles. A true tubeless solution will have better results.
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Being tubeless mtb race - stans is not all it is advertised to be. Homebrews work better in my experience (add mold builder from craft store and glitter for substance - seriously)

What about Mr. Tuffy tire liners? UltraLite
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