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Bradleykd 12-01-14 02:39 PM

"Euro" or "Race" style repair stands
 
I'm going to get a Euro style work stand like the PBS-20 or Feedback Sports Sprint. I did a search, but most people are asking about the cheapest clamp stand they can get. I would like to know which of these two you all prefer and why, and also if you have any other suggested stands that clamp the drop-outs.

If anybody has made their own stand of this style, I'd love to see that too. I made my own clamp stand a few years ago and it works great for what it is, but I want one that will keep the bike more steady, adjust height, spin when I want, and fold up when not in use. I have good fabricating skills and equipment (welding, machining, etc.), and I know I could make one, but to make one with all of the features of a store-bought will cost a fair bit of materials, and a lot of time.

Bradleykd 12-01-14 05:11 PM

Nobody using this style stand? Or is it just that nobody has an opinion one way or the other?

FBinNY 12-01-14 05:19 PM

You're overthinking this.

It's not a matter of better or worse, but one of banance between benefits and drawbacks for various applications. Americans are more sued to clamp type stands, which are great for general repairs because there's no need to remove the front wheel.

The BB and fork mount stands are nice for race bikes because there's no danger of damaging a tube by clamping too tight, or of damaging g paint id the bike slips in a slightly loose clamp. But you can't adjust front brakes in the stand.

There are other minor factors and of course quality is a factor, but in the end it's up to you to think about how you work and what kinds of bikes and decide for yourself.

Bradleykd 12-01-14 05:49 PM

I was thinking more on the lines of stability. I've read that the park is heavy, I assume because it is a steel base, where the feedback is aluminum. That may make it more inconvenient to move a lot, but I'd trade that for it not wanting to tilt when pulling on grip tape or torqueing a bottom bracket. I've also read that the feedback aluminum coating comes off if any solvents get on it.

I am interested to hear what actual users think of theirs and if they have any problems with them. Also, if there are other stands that are more highly recommended that I haven't heard about. Is it even worth it to go with one of these two as opposed to a cheap no-name brand that is half the price?

I fully understand the benefits and limitations of this type of stand, but know that my problems with the clamp type will be solved with this type, and if I need to use the clamp, I already have one of those.

fietsbob 12-02-14 09:33 AM

You got as Carbon Fiber frame Bike ? there they are an advantage.. so you dont have to squeeze the frame with a regular repair stand head.

And Since it is essentially a Thing that holds the frame by removing 1 wheel or the other ..

You can Make one yourself out of Lumber and a fork Clamp sold for putting your Bike in a Pickup bed .
If not going More DIY and just buying a couple spare QR axles , and making that part , yourself Too ..

you can work both sides of the bike on one of course.







You are apparently rather impatient, it's only 1 day after you posted the question :crash: whats the rush?

Andrew R Stewart 12-02-14 10:42 AM

The only Euro style stand I've worked with was Park's first edition (I don't even know if there's been any changes to it, this was a number of years ago). generally I really like the Park stands, certainly their shop series. But this Euro stand wasn't my cup of tea. IIRC the axle/QR clamps were plastic, not very robust is my memory. The BB support allows for some bike movement and, if the fork is clamped, twisting off the mount. Sure there's the tie down strap... The lack of being able to move from front to rear wheel/brake work without also swapping out the wheels and remounting the bike completely is a hassle for me, being use to traditional frame/post clamped bikes. The only reason to use this type of stand that I see is if the seat post won't allow a clamp to be used, highly aero/non existent posts. We clamp carbon posts and frames all the time at work, one just needs to be careful which is part of being a competent wrench anyway. Lastly if there's a chance that a strange bike (recumbent, tandem, trike) is to be serviced the Euro stand isn't going to help. Andy.

Retro Grouch 12-02-14 11:57 AM

I once built my own. It looked kind of like a sawhorse with a QR front axle to hold the fork and the BB loosely supported at the opposite end. Other than adjusting the front brake and headset, I could do virtually any service on a bike.

There are a lot of things it wouldn't do, like fold up, but I built it entirely from scrap so my cost was ZERO.

Bradleykd 12-02-14 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 17355979)
You are apparently rather impatient, it's only 1 day after you posted the question :crash: whats the rush?

Cyber Monday deals. I was hoping for a few quick opinions. I didn't think it was too much to ask from a forum that generates 20 something posts in a day about a plastic tire lever. Guess I was mistaken.

Bradleykd 12-02-14 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 17356526)
I once built my own. It looked kind of like a sawhorse with a QR front axle to hold the fork and the BB loosely supported at the opposite end. Other than adjusting the front brake and headset, I could do virtually any service on a bike.

There are a lot of things it wouldn't do, like fold up, but I built it entirely from scrap so my cost was ZERO.

AH! Now this is a helpful answer. I already have some folding metal sawhorses and a spare fork clamp from my truck, so I could just mill some slots in the sawhorse and mount the cleat there for adjustability to accommodate different bikes and machine some nylon to hold the BB in place and I'll be good for what I need it for. Thanks for the idea! I was overthinking the design and planning on making it look and work like one of the store-bought. Keep it simple stupid.

fietsbob 12-02-14 01:01 PM

FWIW

an Idea..
Black and Decker Work Mate is like a wide Wood Vise , a 2x4 clamped in it would eliminate building your Own legs ..
then do like RG did ..



I believe the ones the Euro Pro teams Use are made For Them , small shop Fabricated, in Steel ..

the multiple bike and wheel racks on top of the cars are made for them too.

at least the Skoda Car sponsorship standardizes the car Under the Rack.



I am just not a rabid online shopper any More. :50:

Retro Grouch 12-04-14 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bradleykd (Post 17356739)
AH! Now this is a helpful answer. I already have some folding metal sawhorses and a spare fork clamp from my truck, so I could just mill some slots in the sawhorse and mount the cleat there for adjustability to accommodate different bikes and machine some nylon to hold the BB in place and I'll be good for what I need it for. Thanks for the idea! I was overthinking the design and planning on making it look and work like one of the store-bought. Keep it simple stupid.

Your folding metal sawhorse might not work. Make sure you have clearance for the crank to rotate past the sawhorse legs.

Bradleykd 12-04-14 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 17361881)
Your folding metal sawhorse might not work. Make sure you have clearance for the crank to rotate past the sawhorse legs.

I thought about that. Worst case scenario, I can tap the sawhorse and mount a piece of flat stock to that with the cleat and a BB cradle mounted to it. I could slot the flat stock so I could slide to a compact position for storage. It would accomplish the foldable, sturdy stand aspect and only take about an hour to do. The only thing I wouldn't like is that I can't lower it to do bar tape, but I can work around that.


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